rionaleonhart | Seriously, Gwen, Do I Like You Or Not?

Oh, man, that episode was genuinely heartwrenching right up until the point at which it became Too Silly. I can pinpoint the exact moment at which it all went horribly wrong: it was the WHOOPS, STABBED MY HUSBAND bit. Although admittedly the OH NO, THE EVIL ALIENS ALLOW BABIES TO BE HIT BY CARS bit just before that was pretty bad as well. Oh, Torchwood, why must you always shoot yourself in the foot when you attempt an emotional episode? I will confess that you're still doing far better than you did in 2006, though.

(The episode did manage to recover itself a bit, but I can't help feeling that I might enjoy Torchwood more if, when a couple of members of the team are out being ACTIONY and SAVING THE WORLD, the episode completely ignored that part of the plot (y'know, the actual 'plot' part), focused entirely on the members left behind at the Hub to be sarcastic and have sexual tension with each other, and then had the Action Members of the Week come through the door and say OH HAY THE WORLD IS SAVED BTW.)

Also, I am devastated by the fact that the next cut back to the Hub after the "Let's all have sex." "And I thought the end of the world couldn't get any worse" exchange didn't show Owen and His Threesome Pals hastily reattiring themselves. (Is 'reattiring' a word? Well, it bloody well should be.) If everyone's going to start writing Last-Shag-Before-The-Apocalypse Owen/Tosh/Ianto, it may be enough to tempt me into the frightening world of Torchwood fanfiction. And I am now 'shipping Ianto/Gwen, purely because of that tiny scene in the storage room. LOOK, IT'S TORCHWOOD; I AM ALLOWED TO PAIR CHARACTERS UP ON THE FLIMSIEST OF EVIDENCE. IT IS WHAT WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO.

Also, why on Earth is Owen now my favourite character? THIS WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.

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Owen's getting better this series. I mostly hate that fact.

Hate it because of general inconsistent characterisation bothers, or because the team shouldn't lose its resident git, or because of I AM SUPPOSED TO HATE OWEN WHY DO I LIKE HIM WHY WHY WHY? (...ahem.)

That last one.

I predict that the invasion will be the season finale and will occur on Gwen's wedding day, ruining her dress and killing Rhys.

If the invaders are being controlled by Daleks, I'm not going to watch the next series.

That sounds... worryingly plausible, actually. If that happens, I bloody well hope Rhys comes back. You know. Again.

Oh, dear. If Daleks turn up in Torchwood, I shall weep.

I rather liked sarcastic!Ianto, actually. Although Jack in this episode bothers me, and Gwen's character is becoming increasingly...um...not. Am I the only one who thinks that? "Look, Jack went away for a while and Gwen's now a totally different person EXCEPT OH WAIT SHE'S NOT." She's just whatever she's required to be for that episode, and it annoys me.

I liked the last episode better. Ridiculous is a much better look for Torchwood that psuedo-serious.

I expect Owen will be back to being a bastard. Also, I love that Ianto gets all the funny lines.

"Also, why on Earth is Owen now my favourite character? THIS WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN."

JUST LOOK AT HIM WITH HIS SILLY MOUTH! AND THEN LOOK AT... AT TOSH! PERFECTLY SENSIBLE LIKEABLE TOSH!

I love Tosh as well! (And she's such a slasher, honestly.) Ianto's a bit more difficult; I love him when he's being wry and sarcastic and awesome, but then he goes into ANGST ANGST ANGST mode and I can't stand him at all. BUT OWEN IS MY FAVOURITE, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHY.

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Well, let's see, he's FICTIONAL and he's a BASTARD.

He fits into the 'characters Riona likes inexplicably' category!

They totally had each other while Jack was away. Ianto and Gwen. Even though the thought makes me feel sick.

Oh, I'm sure they were having foursomes every night when Jack was away, just to spite him.

Judging by this week's episode, Ianto/Owen ... not so much.

Funnily enough, you are not the first person to suggest Ianto/Gwen to me tonight. My mother also said the same thing. ;___;

Then again, I don't mind. Ianto's hot, as are most of the team, so I like most pairings. Yet another reason Torchwood = Top Gear.

This ep was a bit silly and drab. Not a patch on last week. The bad girl was basically Seven of Nine meets Terminator but with less face metal. Why are they making Ianto into a bit of a twat? I don't understand. He is trying waaay too hard with the one-liners. Owen is becoming fantastic now he's not hitting on everything in a ~~skirt~~ ~~trousers~~ ~~skirt~~ I GIVE UP. IT'S TORCHWOOD.

Jack is dating his entire team, they all know it, they're all fine with it. This gives them the freedom for as much inter-shagging as they can handle. World's ending? Ah, well. Nothing we can do. Let's shag.

I still love it completely. I'm so easy.

See, I saw Ianto/Gwen too, not sure how I feel about it though...

But Ianto is so much love I can hardly take it right now. Om nom nom.

I, um, I sort of liked Owen for most of the first series already. He was just such a complete bastard the whole time, then he had that whole 'falling in love' thing, which made him less of a bastard... but after that he just irritated me. I cheered when Ianto shot him. Then again, Gwen is my least favourite character ~~and part of that is the fact that she is so pretty yet has AN ENORMOUS GAP BETWEEN HER FRONT TWO TEETH AND THAT IS ALL I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT HER~~.

They claim the new series will air here on Saturday, so we might end up only being a few episodes behind you guys!

I was so sure that there would be at least subtle reattirement. (Also, I agree with you on the Ianto/Gwen moment.)

Yeahhh, I just didn't like it as much as last week, though more explosions were MUCH more fun. The 'pressing little pop up buttons on your arm' thing just irritated me for some reason, and how on earth could she lever her arm that far backwards to have enough space for the GIANT STABBITY THING to stabbity her husband without her ~~or the camera~~ noticing?? Made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

More mankissing next week and I'll be muuuuuuuch happier :D

I think it sort of grew out through him, and stabbed him in the process?

That's what i thought happened.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with your post. but have you read Three Men In A Boat (To Say Nothing Of The Dog) by Jerome K. Jerome? It's basically a Victorian version of Top Gear.

I wish Gwen would stop the thing she's doing with Jack. Not flirting - that's fine, this is Torchwood - but trying to get him to put a move on her so she can cheat on Rhys. Either have the balls to instigate it yourself, girl, or stop it.

(I'm so so pleased Jack's not taking the bait - I like shag-anything-that's-not-already-spoken-for Jack better)

I'm not sure about Gwen's characterisation. I think I suffer from teh problem that I never thought she was that nice or 'human' to begin with, so when she's a bitch I'm not surprised.

Also, why on Earth is Owen now my favourite character?
He's like a tiny, froggy House! In fact he might actually be House...

WHOOPS, STABBED MY HUSBAND
I admit it, I laughed.

Yah, that probably was the most cartoonish sound effect for 'ohnoes! A baby has been hit by a car! You can tell by this suspiciously generic sound effect!' And also the sheer ridiculousness of 'the second she lets go of the pram it goes straight into the road! Can't you see how hard we are trying to make you go "OHNOES!"!?'

I er, actually didn't find the accidental stabbing all that silly though...

Possibly I think with Owen, his awfulness is too ridiculous and pathetic to hate...

Seriously, Gwen, Do I Like You Or Not?

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