Riona (
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Can You Feel It?
I watched Derren Brown's The Heist yesterday, and it was excellent. For those who do not know the premise: Derren Brown offers a motivational seminar to a group of respectable businessmen and women. The seminar is a cover for manipulating them into robbing a security van. It is a fascinating study of what people can be persuaded to do, and of the little-known danger that the song 'Can You Feel It?' by the Jackson Five poses to society.
I think my favourite part was the shop assistants becoming increasingly frustrated by the endless parade of people in suits coming in and stealing sweets. Hee! (I can't believe people did that. Derren Brown says 'steal from this shop! :D' and people - people who clearly haven't been hypnotised, although they have been manipulated somewhat - actually do it? I would probably have assumed he was joking.)
The replication of the Milgram experiment was just disturbing. HUMAN BEINGS. WHY SO CREEPY?
Here is a Heist-related quote from Tricks of the Mind that I rather enjoyed:
Had the final armed robberies not worked - though I had no doubt they would - I had a very vague plan B and C up my sleeve to ensure that the show would come together in some form. But I didn't need to go down those routes. (Let's just say that I had a lot of dancers tucked around corners, waiting for a signal.)
It looks as if you can watch the entire awesome thing here! It is fifty minutes long, and it is so interesting, so please do watch it if you have a spare hour right now. If you enjoy it, you could consider buying Derren Brown's DVDs.
Alternatively, if you do not have the time to watch the entire thing, here is a two-minute cut-down, speeded-up version set to 'Yakety Sax'.
I think my favourite part was the shop assistants becoming increasingly frustrated by the endless parade of people in suits coming in and stealing sweets. Hee! (I can't believe people did that. Derren Brown says 'steal from this shop! :D' and people - people who clearly haven't been hypnotised, although they have been manipulated somewhat - actually do it? I would probably have assumed he was joking.)
The replication of the Milgram experiment was just disturbing. HUMAN BEINGS. WHY SO CREEPY?
Here is a Heist-related quote from Tricks of the Mind that I rather enjoyed:
Had the final armed robberies not worked - though I had no doubt they would - I had a very vague plan B and C up my sleeve to ensure that the show would come together in some form. But I didn't need to go down those routes. (Let's just say that I had a lot of dancers tucked around corners, waiting for a signal.)
It looks as if you can watch the entire awesome thing here! It is fifty minutes long, and it is so interesting, so please do watch it if you have a spare hour right now. If you enjoy it, you could consider buying Derren Brown's DVDs.
Alternatively, if you do not have the time to watch the entire thing, here is a two-minute cut-down, speeded-up version set to 'Yakety Sax'.
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Also, that experiment: I've heard about another form of it, where the people had to do essentially the same thing but were split into two groups. One group had to ask the questions and press the electric button of doom in the same room with the test subject while the other group were, like here, in a different room but they could still see the subject through a window of some sort. The people with the distance from the subject were more likely to take the experiment further. I did find the one here disturbing though. AUGH HUMANS SUCK.
I will never be able to hear that song again without expecting to be held at gunpoint for my slightly childish purse (what, it was a present about five years ago and I've just not got round to buying a new one yet. So what if it has a cat on it?).
Edited because my html skillz are weakened even further when flu-like.
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I was quite surprised that only one of the participants had already heard of the Milgram experiment. Everyone should know of the Milgram experiment! It teaches such an important lesson!
(My purse was a joke present from a friend. It says 'Superbabe'.)
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(ridiculous purses: unite!)
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I'm really surprised more people hadn't heard of the experiment. Is it only common Psych 101 discussion over here? Did they just never take Psych 101??? I DO NOT KNOW.
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I don't know what Psych 101 is, but a quick search tells me that it seems to be some sort of compulsory psychology course at American universities (is this correct?). As far as I can tell, in an American university, there's the main focus of the course (major?) and then quite a number of compulsory unrelated courses. At a British university, the major is all there is. I study English Language and Literature, so every one of my courses is related either to the English language or to literature; there's no maths, no psychology, et cetera. A British university student is educated in a much narrower range of subjects.
So now you know! (Typing that was actually a bit embarrassing. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE SO UNEDUCATED.)
I'd heard of the Milgram experiment, but perhaps that was just because a friend of mine took Psychology at secondary school. I'd thought it was more commonly known than it apparently is.
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Which is as it should be! The Dutch system works that way as well, and I never got the point of the US system, which seems to me to be 'hahahaha you THOUGHT you were going to study this one thing you found fascinating, right? WRONG! You will have to learn a little about everything IN THE WORLD, especially the stuff you have absolutely no interest in :D'
Seriously, secondary school is for 'learn a little bit about everything!', not university.
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So yeah, I've been taught the ins and outs of the Milgram experiment, among others, though I can never recall their names. I'm really surprised only one of them knew it regardless, though. It's such a telling experiment and so interesting in terms of the human mind.
...Wow, look at me ramble, you can tell I almost switched my major to psych :D
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I was really freaked out when I studied in France for a semester and a lot of my scores were in the fifty or sixty percent range. I was convinced I was failing so badly. Fortunately my school in the US knew how to convert grades from Europe, and I ended up with a lot of Bs and a few As (apparently, getting eight out of ten on any test rather blows teachers in France out of the water).
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Jedi mind-tricksNeuro-Linguistic Programming to make it work). When tricks fall apart, he blows a whistle and they all rush in and dance for dear life while he makes a fast get away.As I seem to be writing the "Derren Brown erases the memories of the Top Gear Presenters as part of a joke, and the Stig turns up to rescue them" as well as the one where Richard turns up in Mongolia with no memory and mistakenly concludes he's a spy, I may use the Emergency Backup Dancers.
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Seriously, it is so funny watching/reading stuff from before he came out. :D
Oh, Riona, where do I buy Trick or Treat DVD?? IT IS NOT ON AMAZON
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You won't be surprised to hear that he lives alone. The longest relationship in his life was a "sort of three-year, on and off relationship around university - that's probably the longest".
With a girl? "Yes," he says, looking startled.
There are no Trick or Treat DVDs, to my distress! Were Channel Four to release some (preferably with commentary and more adorable behind-the-scenesness - are you listening, Channel Four? WHILE YOU ARE AT IT: SERIES THREE OF TRICK OF THE MIND), I would buy them immediately.
(Psst! Has your e-mail address changed in the past year?)
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Because I am a religious obsessive type of geek, I wonder how closetted he must have been to survive in evangelical christianity (though actually I do know one gay evangelical - celibate, naturally) and how much of his 'oh, I realised it's all circular thinking and fakery' is entirely the whole story. But as I said, obsessiveness.
Ah, I got confused with behind the scenes-ness and thought there was a DVD. Hurrah! The tv shows are downloadable for NONE of my english pounds.
No, still the same!
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It was the experiment to see whether people would administer dangerous electric shocks just because a scientist was telling them too.
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I CAN SPELL
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WATCH THE HEIST; IT IS FASCINATING AND ALARMING.
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They are not really shocking other real people.
Work by Derren Brown requires such clarifications.
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Without hypnosis.
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He looks like, and may well be, my poetry seminar leader. D:
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OR POSSIBLY I AM RUNNING AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS POSSIBLE.
Do you suspect that there may be subliminal messages implanted in the poetry you study? Do you find yourself struggling with criminal impulses? Do you occasionally walk into your seminar and suddenly find yourself in a foreign country with no recollection of how you got there?
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Well, seeing as we were studying Walt Whitman last week, I may well have arrived in ninteenth-century America when I got to the room... and there *might* have been subliminal messages too... >_>;;
OH.
I STARTED WATCHING AVATAR.
MY GODS, THAT SHOW IS MADE OF WONDERFUL.
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Avatar is indeed wonderful! Although I haven't watched any for a little while, because Derren Brown ate my brain and I thought I wouldn't be able to fully appreciate the episodes if I watched them whilst in the CRAZY OBSESSION PHASE for something else. Where are you? What do you think of the characters?
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So... it's all Derren Brown's fault that you haven't been posting about Avatar!
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WHAT WOULD HE BE LIKE ON AVATAR?
{Am watching Heist at the moment, and I think Derren Brown might be Iago. Seriously.}
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Ooh, Derren Brown would be a wonderfully ambiguous character on Avatar. Is he a hero? Is he a villain? And he is a mindbender, which is probably not a common bending technique in the world of Avatar.
(With everyone as the world as his Othello? It makes sense! ...possibly!)
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Iroh is brilliant! Ridiculous amounts of love for Katara from me. It's just crazy. And, um... now I'm insanely crossing Derren Brown over with multiple fandoms. Death Note! Avatar! The World Ends With You! The Dresden Files! Supernatural!
Especially Death Note. And now, "Can You Feel It?" has become Nighmare Fuel. >_>
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(Yes! HIGH-FIVE, GUY WHO VALUES SOMEONE ELSE'S WELLBEING OVER A SCIENTIST'S CRAZY EXPERIMENT.)
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