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rionaleonhart) wrote2012-06-10 10:34 am
rionaleonhart) wrote2012-06-10 10:34 am
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Said Monobear, 'That Was Not Cool, And Now I Will Blow Up The School.'
Dangan Ronpa headcanon: after punching him out at the beginning of the first chapter, Mondo was the one who carried Naegi to his room. Mondo and Sakura are the tallest and strongest of the group; one of them would have been Naegi's mysterious transporter, surely. Immediately after knocking Naegi out, I think Mondo came to his senses and went 'fuck, guess I'd better get this kid somewhere safe'. Because he's not a bad guy, Mondo. He's just a guy who seriously needs to learn how to route the connection between his emotional centre and his fists through his brain.
I've been trying not to post anything really spoilery about Dangan Ronpa, even behind a cut, because I don't even want to give people the opportunity to spoil themselves. But then I accidentally wrote a load of rambling about the second case. Whoops.
If you haven't read the Let's Play of Dangan Ronpa up to the end of chapter two (or actually played the game up to that point, I suppose, but I think that's unlikely), please do not read this! Especially you. Yes, you,![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
futuresoon; who did you think I meant? (Obviously I can't actually stop anyone from reading this and spoiling themselves, but I'd very strongly advise against it.)
I can't get over chapter two of Dangan Ronpa. I can't. Just thinking about it makes me sad. When I first read it, I started getting choked up the moment I realised Mondo hadn't switched the rooms and broken the card in an effort to cover his tracks; he was trying to keep his promise to Chihiro. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
You can really feel how much Mondo hates himself at the end of the trial. I don't think he had any intention at all of harming Chihiro when he agreed to meet up for training. But he was terrified of having his secret revealed, so on some level he was probably looking for a reason to kill someone, more volatile than usual, more violent than usual, and not much could have been worse for him at that moment than seeing someone so physically frail displaying mental strength so far surpassing his. A burst of spontaneous, violent rage, and he did something terrible and irreversible. The room switch and the card-destruction say to me that he immediately regretted his actions, but what could he do? He couldn't bring Chihiro back. All he could do was try to keep the promise he'd made to the person he'd just killed.
And then there's the fact that Chihiro admired him so much and obviously had no way of knowing why Mondo was reacting so badly and augh the whole thing is just so sad. Not to mention the fact that, if you-the-player spend enough time with Chihiro, you end up suggesting Mondo as a training partner, so you essentially destroyed both of them.
I was really worried, when it became clear that Mondo had been the killer, that he might have killed Chihiro because Chihiro was a crossdresser. But he didn't. The content of Chihiro's secret didn't matter beyond the fact that, if Chihiro was a boy, Mondo's reservations about harming a woman didn't apply, which would also have been the case had Chihiro presented as male from the beginning. What mattered was that Chihiro had a big, important secret and was brave enough to tell Mondo about it, which intensified Mondo's hatred of himself for being a slave to his own secrets, which caused him to project that hatred. He killed Chihiro because he was jealous and confused and frightened and self-loathing and painfully lacking in self-control. That's still not a reason to kill someone - I'm not about to say 'his motives weren't repellent, therefore it's fine that he killed the sweetest person in the world in a fit of blind rage!' - but it does mean that I can view him with sympathy; this is Mondo's tragedy as well as Chihiro's.
Whilst I'm talking about the second case: at first, I sort of loved Togami's ridiculous confidence and arrogance when suspicion turned towards him in the trial. He's framed himself by framing someone else in a deliberately sloppy way and he is loving it, standing there going 'yes, go on, there's more evidence I did it if you look closely. So are we all in agreement that I bashed in her skull and crucified her? What about this story could possibly not hold up?' But then the Climax Inference comic-animation came along and we saw him stringing Chihiro's body up by its neck and I just felt sick. Chihiro was so sweet, so incapable of harming anyone or anything, and Togami desecrated his body for, essentially, a laugh (although I suppose there was also an element of self-preservation involved in exposing Syo). Togami is an intriguing character, but he's also, you know, despicable.
(Someone in the Let's Play thread pointed out how hilarious it is that Togami later suggests that Kirigiri might be a mole because she's so strangely calm about handling dead bodies. Obviously she should crucify them and then write a message in their blood like a normal person.)
How have I become so emotionally invested in this ridiculous game I'm not even playing myself? Curse you, Monobear.
I've been trying not to post anything really spoilery about Dangan Ronpa, even behind a cut, because I don't even want to give people the opportunity to spoil themselves. But then I accidentally wrote a load of rambling about the second case. Whoops.
If you haven't read the Let's Play of Dangan Ronpa up to the end of chapter two (or actually played the game up to that point, I suppose, but I think that's unlikely), please do not read this! Especially you. Yes, you,
futuresoon; who did you think I meant? (Obviously I can't actually stop anyone from reading this and spoiling themselves, but I'd very strongly advise against it.)I can't get over chapter two of Dangan Ronpa. I can't. Just thinking about it makes me sad. When I first read it, I started getting choked up the moment I realised Mondo hadn't switched the rooms and broken the card in an effort to cover his tracks; he was trying to keep his promise to Chihiro. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
You can really feel how much Mondo hates himself at the end of the trial. I don't think he had any intention at all of harming Chihiro when he agreed to meet up for training. But he was terrified of having his secret revealed, so on some level he was probably looking for a reason to kill someone, more volatile than usual, more violent than usual, and not much could have been worse for him at that moment than seeing someone so physically frail displaying mental strength so far surpassing his. A burst of spontaneous, violent rage, and he did something terrible and irreversible. The room switch and the card-destruction say to me that he immediately regretted his actions, but what could he do? He couldn't bring Chihiro back. All he could do was try to keep the promise he'd made to the person he'd just killed.
And then there's the fact that Chihiro admired him so much and obviously had no way of knowing why Mondo was reacting so badly and augh the whole thing is just so sad. Not to mention the fact that, if you-the-player spend enough time with Chihiro, you end up suggesting Mondo as a training partner, so you essentially destroyed both of them.
I was really worried, when it became clear that Mondo had been the killer, that he might have killed Chihiro because Chihiro was a crossdresser. But he didn't. The content of Chihiro's secret didn't matter beyond the fact that, if Chihiro was a boy, Mondo's reservations about harming a woman didn't apply, which would also have been the case had Chihiro presented as male from the beginning. What mattered was that Chihiro had a big, important secret and was brave enough to tell Mondo about it, which intensified Mondo's hatred of himself for being a slave to his own secrets, which caused him to project that hatred. He killed Chihiro because he was jealous and confused and frightened and self-loathing and painfully lacking in self-control. That's still not a reason to kill someone - I'm not about to say 'his motives weren't repellent, therefore it's fine that he killed the sweetest person in the world in a fit of blind rage!' - but it does mean that I can view him with sympathy; this is Mondo's tragedy as well as Chihiro's.
Whilst I'm talking about the second case: at first, I sort of loved Togami's ridiculous confidence and arrogance when suspicion turned towards him in the trial. He's framed himself by framing someone else in a deliberately sloppy way and he is loving it, standing there going 'yes, go on, there's more evidence I did it if you look closely. So are we all in agreement that I bashed in her skull and crucified her? What about this story could possibly not hold up?' But then the Climax Inference comic-animation came along and we saw him stringing Chihiro's body up by its neck and I just felt sick. Chihiro was so sweet, so incapable of harming anyone or anything, and Togami desecrated his body for, essentially, a laugh (although I suppose there was also an element of self-preservation involved in exposing Syo). Togami is an intriguing character, but he's also, you know, despicable.
(Someone in the Let's Play thread pointed out how hilarious it is that Togami later suggests that Kirigiri might be a mole because she's so strangely calm about handling dead bodies. Obviously she should crucify them and then write a message in their blood like a normal person.)
How have I become so emotionally invested in this ridiculous game I'm not even playing myself? Curse you, Monobear.
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Oh, dear, 'shipping things really does sound inadvisable. What are you 'shipping?
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I am shipping Sakura/Aoi annoyingly hard. Sakura's probably my favorite overall, and their interactions always seem so sweet. I just finished chapter 3 a little while ago and now I'm pacing around feeling anxious.
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I was wondering whether it might be Sakura/Aoi! Their relationship is lovely. I'm desperately hoping that nothing happens to Aoi, as I really can't see her ever killing anyone and obviously it's in the game's interest to keep potential murderers in play.
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But oooh, I hadn't thought of that about handling dead bodies. Togami = confuzz!
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Argh, there still isn't an update, this is driving me nuts. Theories on the next motivator?
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I still can't work out if Togami is a god tier genius or the luckiest moron in the land.
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Seriously, if Naegi hadn't realised that Togami wasn't the culprit, how did Togami think he was going to get out of being found guilty? I suppose he might just be arrogant enough to believe that if he said 'well, yes, all the evidence is pointing towards me but I saw the real culprit leaving the scene of the crime' everyone would take him at his word.
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Do you think Mondo would've intervened and admitted to the crime if it came to that point? He didn't attack Chihiro out of any intrinsic spite and everyone's aware of the 'get the culprit wrong and the rest of you die' rule, so would he out himself to save everyone else? I'd like to think he would, considering how honourably (for lack of a better word) he went to his execution.
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Oh, I'd really like to think he would. I think he might have confessed earlier had it not been for the promise he'd made to his brother to hold the gang together; it wasn't solely a matter of saving his own skin. If it came to the voting and suspicion was still on Togami, I think the full impact of someone else being found guilty would hit him and he'd intervene. He's already carrying the deaths of his brother and Chihiro with him; can he really live with the weight of another ten? Particularly considering that one of those ten is Ishimaru?
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That bear is the stuff of nightmares. *shudders*
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(Incidentally, there's a fanart of the bros and Chihiro that someone is using as their icon on the board and it is HEARTBREAKINGLY ADORABLE.)