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rionaleonhart) wrote2023-12-07 03:35 pm
rionaleonhart) wrote2023-12-07 03:35 pm
Who'd Clean Up The Mess?
For each of my major fandoms, I do a short writeup talking about how it fits into my fandom history. A fandom qualifies as 'major' if I've written five fics for it, or ten thousand words across at least three fics.
It's only just occurred to me that Red Dwarf technically qualifies. It's the only fandom in which I've permanently lost all copies of a fic I wrote, so I only have four surviving Red Dwarf fics, but I have written and posted five Red Dwarf fics in total.
Red Dwarf
Red Dwarf is the first television series I remember really enjoying. To be clear, I loved Red Dwarf even before I loved Pokémon. I'm pretty sure I first watched it when my age was in single figures.
In some respects, I was too young for Red Dwarf. Most of the jokes probably went over my head, and I remember that the episode 'Demons and Angels' really disturbed and upset me. Lister being forced to kill the angelic versions of the crew was horrifying. Trying to warn them, trying to apologise, but being unable to control his body!
My other main recollection from watching Red Dwarf as a tiny child is how much I enjoyed 'Mr Flibble's very cross.'
The first series came out on DVD when I was fourteen, and I had a blast revisiting it. I watched the episodes over and over again. I watched the cast commentaries over and over again. At one point I apparently attempted to handwrite a transcript of an episode for unclear reasons, a project I was confused to rediscover twelve years later.
Still at the age of fourteen, I wrote a short Lister/Rimmer fic - my first fic for a live-action TV fandom - and posted it to fanfiction.net. Princess Lauren E Scavenger, who I believe was one of the group's founders, left an encouraging comment with a link to a Yahoo! group called the Red Dwarf Slash Society, which I joined.
This group was where I posted my lost fic, Me3, a Rimmer/Rimmer selfcest fic set during the Rimmer-duplication episode 'Me2'. It was my first ever attempt at writing sex; I think one of the Rimmers gave the other a vaguely implied handjob. I suspect it was probably dubcon.
The feedback for my Rimmer/Rimmer fic wasn't in any way unkind, but it was as lukewarm as you'd expect from people trying to be polite about the fact that it was clearly written by a fourteen-year-old with zero sexual knowledge or experience. I was a little embarrassed, which is probably why I made no effort to keep the fic backed up.
My second ever attempt at writing sex, incidentally, was also selfcest with consent issues. Come to think of it, I also wrote a dubcon selfcest fic this year, two decades after my first. Start as you mean to go on?
Favourite character: Rimmer is terrible and petty in a way that makes him a lot of fun. Possibly the first entertainingly terrible character I ever developed a fondness for.
Favourite pairing: Lister/Rimmer, one of my earliest ships. They have such an interesting 'we drive each other mad, we know each other more intimately than anyone else could, we're isolated together in unfathomably deep space' dynamic.
Number of words written: I don't actually know! I have 8,270 surviving words of Red Dwarf fanfiction, across four fics, and I suspect the lost fic was under a thousand words long; most of my fics at that age were very short. About 9,000 words, I suppose.
It's only just occurred to me that Red Dwarf technically qualifies. It's the only fandom in which I've permanently lost all copies of a fic I wrote, so I only have four surviving Red Dwarf fics, but I have written and posted five Red Dwarf fics in total.
Red Dwarf
Red Dwarf is the first television series I remember really enjoying. To be clear, I loved Red Dwarf even before I loved Pokémon. I'm pretty sure I first watched it when my age was in single figures.
In some respects, I was too young for Red Dwarf. Most of the jokes probably went over my head, and I remember that the episode 'Demons and Angels' really disturbed and upset me. Lister being forced to kill the angelic versions of the crew was horrifying. Trying to warn them, trying to apologise, but being unable to control his body!
My other main recollection from watching Red Dwarf as a tiny child is how much I enjoyed 'Mr Flibble's very cross.'
The first series came out on DVD when I was fourteen, and I had a blast revisiting it. I watched the episodes over and over again. I watched the cast commentaries over and over again. At one point I apparently attempted to handwrite a transcript of an episode for unclear reasons, a project I was confused to rediscover twelve years later.
Still at the age of fourteen, I wrote a short Lister/Rimmer fic - my first fic for a live-action TV fandom - and posted it to fanfiction.net. Princess Lauren E Scavenger, who I believe was one of the group's founders, left an encouraging comment with a link to a Yahoo! group called the Red Dwarf Slash Society, which I joined.
This group was where I posted my lost fic, Me3, a Rimmer/Rimmer selfcest fic set during the Rimmer-duplication episode 'Me2'. It was my first ever attempt at writing sex; I think one of the Rimmers gave the other a vaguely implied handjob. I suspect it was probably dubcon.
The feedback for my Rimmer/Rimmer fic wasn't in any way unkind, but it was as lukewarm as you'd expect from people trying to be polite about the fact that it was clearly written by a fourteen-year-old with zero sexual knowledge or experience. I was a little embarrassed, which is probably why I made no effort to keep the fic backed up.
My second ever attempt at writing sex, incidentally, was also selfcest with consent issues. Come to think of it, I also wrote a dubcon selfcest fic this year, two decades after my first. Start as you mean to go on?
Favourite character: Rimmer is terrible and petty in a way that makes him a lot of fun. Possibly the first entertainingly terrible character I ever developed a fondness for.
Favourite pairing: Lister/Rimmer, one of my earliest ships. They have such an interesting 'we drive each other mad, we know each other more intimately than anyone else could, we're isolated together in unfathomably deep space' dynamic.
Number of words written: I don't actually know! I have 8,270 surviving words of Red Dwarf fanfiction, across four fics, and I suspect the lost fic was under a thousand words long; most of my fics at that age were very short. About 9,000 words, I suppose.
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I remember seeing Better Than Life for the first time and it blew my tiny little mind. I could never ever understand why they didn't look at the microdot on Rimmer's swimming certificate afterwards JUST TO BE SURE.
Gotta admit, took me a long time to be able to look at Lister/Rimmer, but damn it when good authors write, they do tend to suck me in.
Have to say I'm quite impressed you jumped into writing that stuff so early. Anything even vaguely sex-related took me a lonnng time to work up to!
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Have to say I'm quite impressed you jumped into writing that stuff so early.
I remember Red Dwarf fanfiction had way more sex than any fandom I'd previously been in, so maybe I felt it was just the done thing! My previous fandoms had been Pokémon and various Final Fantasy games; I think Red Dwarf fandom skewed a bit older (and also, as it was mainly on Yahoo! Groups, wasn't beholden to fanfiction.net's recent ban on explicit content).
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That was great!
Okay, conceptually speaking, that's a very good idea.
You do seem to have a pattern! An awesome pattern!
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Based on some of your fiction preferences now I'm wondering if that wasn't formative
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Okay but what kind of Pokémon would the various Red Dwarf characters have and how much do Cat and Meowth bond over being talking cats?
I feel that Rimmer/Rimmer written by someone with zero sexual knowledge could really work if you read it assuming Rimmer wrote it himself.
But yes, it's an excellent show for selfcest, and I loved the cast commentaries and all the other extras on the DVDs, with all the behind the scenes info on the models and the effects.
I also have four Red Dwarf fics, but I never crossposted them to AO3. HMM...
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This is incredible.
I'm finding it tricky to pin down Pokémon for the Red Dwarf characters, with one exception. Holly absolutely, no-question has a Porygon-Z, a virtual Pokémon with Pokédex entries including 'A faulty update was added to its programming. Its behavior is noticeably strange, so the experiment may have been a failure' and 'Its behavior is noticeably unstable, which is apparently due to the incompetence of the engineer who updated its programming'.
I feel that Rimmer/Rimmer written by someone with zero sexual knowledge could really work if you read it assuming Rimmer wrote it himself.
This is ALSO INCREDIBLE, oh wow. You'd read Rimmer's smutfic and go 'why is the author even writing this when his supposed distaste for this filth is radiating through every line?'
The Red Dwarf DVD extras were so good! I think they were the first DVDs I ever had, and, to be frank, they gave me unrealistic expectations of DVDs in general.
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Rimmer's smutfic would be THE WORST and attempt flowery euphemisms one sentence and filth the next, and all of it biologically impossible.
THEY WERE THE BEST. I've been disappointed in DVDs ever since. They had their own fanvids, amazing.
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Anyway, the fact that I found this blog via your comments on Zarla's Vargas stuff makes your adolescent interest in self-cest with consent issues less surprising.
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Anyway, the fact that I found this blog via your comments on Zarla's Vargas stuff makes your adolescent interest in self-cest with consent issues less surprising.
Ha, this is a very good point!
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the artist formerly known as princess lauren e scavenger is still floating about the place, and i have them on tumblr! want me to ask if they ever downloaded a copy of the rdss group before it folded...?
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