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[rionaleonhart]

You know what 'Folsom Prison Blues' has made me start thinking about? A Supernatural/Prison Break crossover. They've both got the brotherly love goin' on, and the getting-sent-to-prison-to-achieve-a-goal-and-get-out. Sam and Dean would probably get off to a bad start with Michael (or possibly Sam and Michael would get along freakishly well; I haven't quite decided which way it would go yet), and then they'd work out what was going on and decide that they had to help him because, dude, it's his brother. AND MICHAEL'S ESCAPE PLANS START TO GO HORRIBLY WRONG (or, all right, continue to go horribly wrong, because from what I remember of Prison Break it certainly wasn't running terribly smoothly) WHEN THE SPIRITS OF THE MANY PRISON BREAK CHARACTERS WHO HAVE BEEN UNPLEASANTLY KILLED RETURN TO HAUNT HIM. YES.

Also, you know that Dean would have sex with Sara, and Michael would be so annoyed. YOU CAN'T JUST GO AROUND SHAGGING PEOPLE INTEGRAL TO THE ESCAPE PLAN, DEAN.

Of course, I've only seen thirteen episodes of Prison Break, which is a slight obstacle to my actually writing the thing.

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Comments

[amy-wolf.livejournal.com]

To be slightly random (I was going to go with, "Speaking of giant mechanical spiders...", but I'm afraid I might confuse someone by saying that and not speaking of giant mechanical spiders), is there anything you'd consider too nasty to do to basically any fanfic character, ever? I read this thing where turning disturbing dreams into some form of artwork is supposed to make them less disturbing and less prone to reoccurring, but I'm thinking some of my nightmares might be a bit beyond the acceptable bounds of character-torture.

[rionaleonhart]

I don't think I'd ever write about a character being deliberately, sadistically sexually violated by someone they trusted. Of course, th_esaurus wrote Saint Jude, and it was bloody good, but I'd never be able to write it myself. I don't know whether there's anything that nobody should write.

It's an interesting question. What are your boundaries?

(The worst nightmare I ever had was about finding out that my little brother was dead, and it upset me so severely that I have trouble even typing that. When I woke up, the first thing I did was call to make sure he was all right. I don't think representing it in fiction would do anything to get rid of the lingering trauma of that dream, but that doesn't mean I'm promising that I'll never have anything of the sort happen to Dean.)

[amy-wolf.livejournal.com]

I have a lot higher of boundaries in RPF than fake-people-fic; I wouldn't write anything making one of the characters a bad person unless it was at Zombie Piers Morgan levels of cartooniness (flawed's okay, but not bad); and I'd be extremely reluctant to RPF anything with serious long-term damage (I definitely favor stuff where they can get better afterwards.)

With fictional people, I'm not sure what boundaries I have. I can't think of anything where I'd feel it would make a meaningful story but I definitely wouldn't write it. I'm not entirely decided what my worst nightmare is, but there are a few I wouldn't inflict on any character. And the idea of fanficcing the mermaid dream is alternately tempting and seriously creepy.

Mostly I was thinking of this one dream I had. I already told it once to johnnypurple here: http://johnnypurple.livejournal.com/35825.html?thread=396017#t396017 (warning; exceptionally creepy and gruesome). Obviously, not RPF, and it wouldn't fit into canon for every show out there (only ones where 'scalpels made of magic rocks' make sense, for instance). But it's like half a plot, and I'm in way too many fandoms where 'scalpels made of magic rocks' makes sense.

Torchwood? Do all the really nasty stuff to an OC, so I don't feel guilty about beating up on canon characters?

[amy-wolf.livejournal.com]

Also, if you pulled a, "It was just something messing with him!" ending, you could have Dean waking up to find apparently-dead Sam work quite well. Or do a really dark AU where Sam's really, truly, permanently dead, and see what that does to Dean.

It would crush him like nothing else. It could be brilliant.

[rionaleonhart]

I've been thinking about it, and I can't do it. I can't kill one of the Winchester boys. It would just be the most horrible thing ever.

Also, that mermaid dream sounds seriously unpleasant. And I have more reservations with RPF than with fictional-person fic, too. I can't even write Top Gear angst.

You know, unless it's in Silent Hill.

[amy-wolf.livejournal.com]

I understand about the Top Gear angst. Obviously I do write Top Gear angst, but I have specific issues as to how and when I'm comfortable with it.

Silent Hill seems to make all kinds of character-torture more justifiable.

I seriously couldn't put any RPF characters into the mermaid dream. I might try it as an original story. For some reason, I'm less bothered about beating up on characters I make myself. It might be a bit too nasty for fanfic; among other things, it seriously doesn't seem fixable.

Unless the characters woke up and went, "It was only a dream." Which would just be a lame self-insert.

What about a fake death? Or one that didn't take? Kind of like Mystery Spot? In terms of "psychological cruelty to Dean Winchester," I don't think you could do worse than making him think Sam was dead.

Of course, I'm unwilling to inflict eyelid-slicing on him because it's too cruel, and if Dean were ever in a, "You can have your eyelids sliced off or your brother killed; your choice," situation, it's pretty obvious what he'd pick.