rionaleonhart | So You Think You're One Of The Necessary Ones?

I am still having adventures in Silent Hill 3! Horrible, horrible adventures.

Heather, if you don't want to carry a plastic bag full of blood around, have you considered not filling a plastic bag with blood for no reason?

Heather encountered Vincent in her motel room, and of course I instantly found myself battling unfortunate fic ideas. I wouldn't say I ship Heather/Vincent at all, but I find their interactions interesting and I'm tempted to try to explore their dynamic. Because this is Silent Hill, though, and Vincent comes across as extremely self-serving and manipulative, I imagine any effort to explore it would turn out hideously.

This whole game is fairly confusing, and I feel there's a good chance I'll end up too bewildered to attempt to write anything, which, I'll be honest, may be for the best.

Are you... are you not going to ask how Vincent got into your motel room? No? You're just going to accept that this incredibly untrustworthy guy presumably followed you from your hometown to Silent Hill and you just found him in your motel room? Okay.

I don't want to go back to the amusement park! I've already been there in my dreams and it went very badly! I don't want to be run over by a rollercoaster!

'There's a dead body inside this box thing. There's nothing interesting here.' Heather, you're so desensitised.

Douglas pointed his gun at me! I was so startled! You can't do that, Sad Detective; you're the only person in this game I trust!

I found that scene really interesting, actually. Douglas raises his gun to point it at Heather's back, and:

Heather: What are you doing?
Douglas: Maybe killing you here is the only way to end this nightmare.
Heather: Yeah, maybe you're right.

But he doesn't shoot, he lets her leave, and they're still on good terms afterwards. I love this sort of strange, tense interaction, and Silent Hill is a great place to find them.

I'm enjoying Vincent occasionally just showing up to make everything uncomfortable.

Vincent: It's not uncommon for people to worship the same god and still disagree.
Heather: God? Are you sure you don't mean 'devil'?
Vincent: Whichever you like.

I really liked this little exchange. Vincent doesn’t care if Heather calls his god a devil; that's not what's important to him.

Vincent saying, 'I always hated getting all... hot... and sweaty' was a bit odd. The pauses made it seem like a come-on! But the content doesn't make sense as a come-on! 'I'm repelled by the thought of having sex with you,' Vincent says, breathily.

Vincent sort of feels like a slightly off version of Ignis Scientia. I think that’s why it’s really jarring to me every time Vincent speaks; I’m always expecting him to have an RP accent!

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Heather, if you don't want to carry a plastic bag full of blood around, have you considered not filling a plastic bag with blood for no reason?

Oh sure, if you want to solve this problem the boring way.

Are you... are you not going to ask how Vincent got into your motel room? No? You're just going to accept that this incredibly untrustworthy guy presumably followed you from your hometown to Silent Hill and you just found him in your motel room? Okay.

She is god at life choices!

Vincent saying, 'I always hated getting all... hot... and sweaty' was a bit odd. The pauses made it seem like a come-on! But the content doesn't make sense as a come-on! 'I'm repelled by the thought of having sex with you,' Vincent says, breathily.

Okay, now I want fic where they have confusing sex. Vincent hits on her in a confusing and contradictory way, and Heather is all "Okay, may as well."

Everyone in the Silent Hill series is just the best at life choices.

and Heather is all "Okay, may as well."

Heather, seeking stress relief by having sex with a man you don't like or trust is likely to cause more stress! But it's also likely to be interesting, at least.

"On the one hand, it would involve being naked and touched intimately by a man I don't trust or like, who's been confusing about whether he even wants sex with me. On the other hand, orgasm ae sometimes good stress relief. Eh, I'm going for it."

I am completely unsurprised by your interest in Vincent!

This whole game is fairly confusing, and I feel there's a good chance I'll end up too bewildered to attempt to write anything, which, I'll be honest, may be for the best.

This is me and every Silent Hill, especially 1 and 3. 2 is the only one that I can make some headway with! (I can with 4, a little, until the whole "thinks apartment room is his mother" bit. ??? Was that just lost in translation?!)

Having said that, 4 is the only SH game I've actually played and I did enjoy it (as much as you can "enjoy" SH stories). It's funny, I always thought I'd just run from things in Silent Hill, but I beat a lot of them up with the default weapon - I knew I'd have to keep re-roaming up the same corridors and didn't want to leave stuff alive behind me! Then it introduces the ghosts to go "lol, can't permanently kill -these-"! :P

I'm now watching an LP of Siren 2! It seems to be as incomprehensible as Siren 1 so far, and we have a massive cast of characters interacting again, yet they seem to span at least three different time periods (so how are you interacting with this person from the 80s??). Suppose this makes sense in light of our current conversation given the Siren games are by the dev team of the original Silent Hill I believe. I still really like sightjacking as a concept though it makes me wonder how tough that is to program since the game has to be constantly aware of what enemies/allies are seeing/doing and using those to hint at what you should be doing is tough.

This mission is a good example of various uses of sightjacking (don't worry that it's not part 1, the game is in anachronic order and multiple missions unlock at once, so many people playing it won't play in the same order anyway): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdicp7Iv5ZU

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I am completely unsurprised by your interest in Vincent!

This cracked me up. One day I'll manage not to be predictable in my fictional tastes! One day.

I can't watch that video right now, I'm afraid, but I'll try to take a look tomorrow! The Siren series definitely sounds confusing (much like, yes, the Silent Hill series).

have you considered not filling a plastic bag with blood for no reason

Killjoy.

I realise sometimes you'll come across a bucket of blood and go, 'Oh, better take some of this with me just in case I need to trick an altar into thinking I've performed a human sacrifice, thus making half the floor disappear so I can get down to the basement,' but you could also consider leaving the blood there until you've established for certain that the building contains a magical altar.

Happy belated Birthday!

I would love to read your take on Heather/Vincent. Hideously doesn't mean without value! Or something.

Thank you very much! I had a lovely picnic.

I'm glad to know there's interest in the horrible fic I ~~probably~~ won't write!

VINCENT IS JUST HERE TO MAKE EVERYONE UNCOMFORTABLE AND KIND OF CONFUSED

his line reads are so weird!! why does he do that!!!!!

And he's so good at it!

This comment reminded me, 'Oh, yeah, I think Zarla's posted about Silent Hill 3 before; I should take a look now that I have the context for it.' So now I'm having a poke through the Silent Hill tag on your journal, and I have to mention that I'm deeply wounded by all this dunking on James Sunderland, love of my life, who has never done anything to be criticised for.

JAMES WILL GET NO PITY FROM ME!!

god i wrote like a billion words about silent hill origins and NO ONE CARES ABOUT ORIGINS WHY DID I DO THAT

Heather/Vincent was one of my pet pairings back in the day. Heather/Claudia is another good one. I'm on board with just about any Heather/Anyone who goes out of their way to make her uncomfortable ship. Sorry Heather, I love you and this is how my affection for characters tends to manifest.

I'm on board with just about any Heather/Anyone who goes out of their way to make her uncomfortable ship.

Excellent taste! I'm glad I'm not the only one who played this game and went 'this pairing looks horrible; I'm intrigued.'

Vincent saying, 'I always hated getting all... hot... and sweaty' was a bit odd. The pauses made it seem like a come-on! But the content doesn't make sense as a come-on! 'I'm repelled by the thought of having sex with you,' Vincent says, breathily.

LMAOOOOO

Vincent sort of feels like a slightly off version of Ignis Scientia. I think that’s why it’s really jarring to me every time Vincent speaks; I’m always expecting him to have an RP accent!

Intrigued and yet pre-emptively offended on Ignis' behalf :P He isn't self-serving!!

True! Ignis is pretty much the opposite of self-serving; he's wildly devoted to someone else. But he and Vincent still have an oddly similar feel to them, somehow.

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