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rionaleonhart) wrote2023-03-12 06:52 pm
rionaleonhart) wrote2023-03-12 06:52 pm
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There's My Favourite Leaf.
For a show set on an island without any vehicles, I feel Lost features a surprising number of car accidents. We're up to, what, six?
I'm up to episode 2.11, 'The Hunting Party'!
'Collision': I'm cracking up at Jack's discomfort over how intimate Kate is being with Sawyer when they're all in close quarters and trying to save Sawyer's life. Just accept that you're going to end up in a threesome, Jack.
I really like Ana Lucia and Sayid starting to talk to each other while she's holding him captive, having killed someone he loves. Always a fan of characters getting to know each other under tense circumstances.
It hits me so hard whenever the survivors refer to the island or the community they've created there as 'home'.
'What Kate Did': h-holy shit, Kate. I wasn't sure whether the show would be bold enough to have her crime be anything too bad - or to have her crime exist at all; maybe she'd turn out to be innocent - so I'm sort of delighted to learn that she just murdered the hell out of someone.
I still think Jack and Kate bring out the worst in each other, but I was nonetheless pretty into the scene where they kissed, and how bewildered and possibly slightly turned on Jack looked when Kate was yelling 'I'M SORRY I'M NOT AS PERFECT AS YOU' at him. I like that Kate both initiated the kiss and ran off without saying anything immediately afterwards, leaving poor Jack struggling to process things.
Presumably failing to enter the code wouldn't actually end the world, because the protocol was introduced in response to 'an incident', and the incident in question probably wasn't the apocalypse. The existence of the blast doors suggests that the base might blow up, but it also suggests that the explosion might be contained. So, if the timer runs down without anyone in the base, things might be okay. But I can understand that it's hard to take the risk when all you know is 'if the timer runs down, something unknown and bad happens'.
I hate this timer; it's so stressful!
Kate's attraction to Sawyer is tied up in his similarities to the terrible father she murdered? That is fucked up and I'm intrigued.
'The 23rd Psalm': awww, Sawyer struggling with the concept of people liking him is pretty cute.
I'm also touched by seeing 'our' survivors show kindness to the newcomers from the tail. I'm glad the tail survivors are in a better situation now, even if they're still stranded on the island; they've really had it rough.
'The Hunting Party' is a great episode if you like Jack having breakdowns and making terrible decisions. Loved him slamming his hands furiously against the lockers.
Is Jack just incapable of going through a stressful situation with someone else without developing feelings for them? I choose to believe so, because it's a great foundation for shipping him with everyone on the island.
It's too late for their marriage, but I'm sort of impressed that Jack's response to the kiss was to go home, tell his wife about it and pledge that he's going to be better about spending time with her. He's very bad at relationships, but he's trying.
I knew from the start that Jack was going to be my favourite character. I tried so hard to pretend it wasn't inevitable. I like some of his qualities and could do without others, but it all adds up to a character I really enjoy watching.
Jack is nowhere near the perfect hero he seems to be at first glance; he's condescending and petty and kind of sexist sometimes. He strives unsuccessfully to avoid his own feelings. He's got a desperate need to save everyone that's going to destroy you when you're a doctor. He can handle pressure on a practical level but can't cope at all on an emotional one. He's trying so hard to keep their community under control when he can barely even control his own actions. Sometimes he cries and it's great.
I'm up to episode 2.11, 'The Hunting Party'!
'Collision': I'm cracking up at Jack's discomfort over how intimate Kate is being with Sawyer when they're all in close quarters and trying to save Sawyer's life. Just accept that you're going to end up in a threesome, Jack.
I really like Ana Lucia and Sayid starting to talk to each other while she's holding him captive, having killed someone he loves. Always a fan of characters getting to know each other under tense circumstances.
It hits me so hard whenever the survivors refer to the island or the community they've created there as 'home'.
'What Kate Did': h-holy shit, Kate. I wasn't sure whether the show would be bold enough to have her crime be anything too bad - or to have her crime exist at all; maybe she'd turn out to be innocent - so I'm sort of delighted to learn that she just murdered the hell out of someone.
I still think Jack and Kate bring out the worst in each other, but I was nonetheless pretty into the scene where they kissed, and how bewildered and possibly slightly turned on Jack looked when Kate was yelling 'I'M SORRY I'M NOT AS PERFECT AS YOU' at him. I like that Kate both initiated the kiss and ran off without saying anything immediately afterwards, leaving poor Jack struggling to process things.
Presumably failing to enter the code wouldn't actually end the world, because the protocol was introduced in response to 'an incident', and the incident in question probably wasn't the apocalypse. The existence of the blast doors suggests that the base might blow up, but it also suggests that the explosion might be contained. So, if the timer runs down without anyone in the base, things might be okay. But I can understand that it's hard to take the risk when all you know is 'if the timer runs down, something unknown and bad happens'.
I hate this timer; it's so stressful!
Kate's attraction to Sawyer is tied up in his similarities to the terrible father she murdered? That is fucked up and I'm intrigued.
'The 23rd Psalm': awww, Sawyer struggling with the concept of people liking him is pretty cute.
I'm also touched by seeing 'our' survivors show kindness to the newcomers from the tail. I'm glad the tail survivors are in a better situation now, even if they're still stranded on the island; they've really had it rough.
'The Hunting Party' is a great episode if you like Jack having breakdowns and making terrible decisions. Loved him slamming his hands furiously against the lockers.
Is Jack just incapable of going through a stressful situation with someone else without developing feelings for them? I choose to believe so, because it's a great foundation for shipping him with everyone on the island.
It's too late for their marriage, but I'm sort of impressed that Jack's response to the kiss was to go home, tell his wife about it and pledge that he's going to be better about spending time with her. He's very bad at relationships, but he's trying.
I knew from the start that Jack was going to be my favourite character. I tried so hard to pretend it wasn't inevitable. I like some of his qualities and could do without others, but it all adds up to a character I really enjoy watching.
Jack is nowhere near the perfect hero he seems to be at first glance; he's condescending and petty and kind of sexist sometimes. He strives unsuccessfully to avoid his own feelings. He's got a desperate need to save everyone that's going to destroy you when you're a doctor. He can handle pressure on a practical level but can't cope at all on an emotional one. He's trying so hard to keep their community under control when he can barely even control his own actions. Sometimes he cries and it's great.
*rushes into the room breathless and knocks over everything on the table*
i watched this show in its entirety while it was live on TV, back in the day (i have fond memories of calling one of my friends during commercial breaks just to shout in the phone at each other, "WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID LOCKE DO THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING OK GOTTA GO"), and i actually started rewatching it a bit last month. (i'd just spent some time in Hawaii, during which i kept inanely being like "wow, this place really looks like Lost!", and eventually found myself reaching for my old DVDs, lol), but i'm a bit behind you—haven't quuuuite made it to season 2 yet! but maybe i'll catch up, and it's great fun reading your thoughts in the meantime.
in my own rewatch, it's been interesting which characters i still adore vs which ones i've REALLY changed my mind about—ie, teennage-me adored Sayid and she was ENTIRELY correct on that matter, my teenage-me loathed Shannon and she was SO wrong about that, Shannon is great and i will hear no slander against her.
i've never cared much for Jack personally, but hearing you talk about him has got me reconsidering him! keeping an eye out for tears in the coming episodes...
i notice some other commenters have pointed out the show starts falling apart a bit during season 3, which is true. on the other hand, i think 13 Sentinels had an equally-bonkers/confusing plot, and we both dug that one, so i think there's a decent chance the show will show your interest to the end. (even while the plot's totally off the rails, they never stop doing interesting character development and delightfully unpredictable shipping fodder, which is absolutely what kept me invested until the end, haha.)
also that "THEY ARE LOST" theme you dropped in an earlier post is SO delightful and now i'm humming it hahaha
Re: *rushes into the room breathless and knocks over everything on the table*
WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID LOCKE DO THAT
The eternal Lost experience! It's cracking me up that Locke's just going around, cheerfully making enemies of everyone on the island. I love that you were calling your friend during breaks, too; you needed to get your yelling done as soon as possible!
It's always interesting to revisit a canon and see how you experience characters differently! I'm glad you've come around to Shannon.
i've never cared much for Jack personally, but hearing you talk about him has got me reconsidering him!
It's good to hear this too! From my very vague osmosis, I got the impression that a lot of people in the fandom didn't like Jack. Watching the show, I've been going 'I can definitely see why this guy would be an offputting character, but I kind of love him.'
(even while the plot's totally off the rails, they never stop doing interesting character development and delightfully unpredictable shipping fodder, which is absolutely what kept me invested until the end, haha.)
This bodes extremely well! Final Fantasy VIII is my favourite game in the world, so I'm definitely able to forgive some questionable plotting if a canon's willing to give me interesting character moments.
Please know that I caught myself whispering 'THEY ARE LOST' multiple times while writing my reply to this comment.
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"It hits me so hard whenever the survivors refer to the island or the community they've created there as 'home'."
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"'The Hunting Party' is a great episode if you like Jack having breakdowns and making terrible decisions."
That's the entire show tbh. xD
"He can handle pressure on a practical level but can't cope at all on an emotional one."
!!! This is honestly the closest to 'explaining Jack to me' that anyone ever got? I love love love EVERYONE in the first two seasons, but I only understood everyone other than Jack, so I always tried to find stuff that other fans said that would help me GET HIM and I never really did, but this? This I get!
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I'm pleased to learn this; it's a great line!
That's the entire show tbh.
That's what I like to hear!
It's great to hear I could help give some insight into Jack! He's an interesting character, and I'm fascinated by the way he can tackle high-stress situations while absolutely falling apart. He can take action, he's practical and efficient, but he can't think straight. It makes him both more useful and more dangerous than someone who just freezes up under pressure; he's definitely going to do something, and that action could save someone's life or could just make everything worse.