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Riona ([personal profile] rionaleonhart) wrote2008-03-07 07:25 am
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But What Are Their Thoughts On Incest?

Why is Sam always dominant in Sam/Dean fanfiction? Seriously, there are great big 'CAUTION: IMPLIED BOTTOM!SAM' warnings plastered all over fic that breaks this trend. Sam always seems to be the one who initiates the relationship shift, too, and the one who's more at ease with it. It can't just be because he's tall, surely? ...it's just because he's tall, isn't it?

All right, that's unfair of me; I'm just interested in why the idea of dominant, totally-okay-with-the-brothersex Sam is so prevalent in the Supernatural fandom, because it's not the way in which Sam/Dean works in my mind. I can see Dean having issues with it, of course, because he'd be keen to hold onto his heterosexual self-image (part of the reason the popularity of bottom-Dean surprises me; I can't see him taking what I'm sure he would think of as 'the girl's role' without a fight) and concerned about hurting Sam (and I'd say Dean's concern for his brother's mental and emotional well-being is the single largest obstacle to Wincest). But I imagine that Dean would probably be more at ease with the actual concept of incest, because he's embraced the fact that the Winchesters are Different, they are Not Like Other People, and he's so obsessed with his family that I don't think the idea of letting anyone else into his life has even occurred to him; if he wants anything remotely approaching a long-term romantic or sexual relationship, Sam is his only option. I can even see him thinking of that as obvious. "Of course my brother's the only person I could ever have more than a one-night stand with, pfft. Girls don't exist for more than two days."

Sam, though, Sam (for the first series, at least) has delusions that maybe one day he could find a nice girl, settle down, have a normal life. He doesn't view himself and his brother as being separate from the 'real world' in the way in which Dean does, and so he's less likely to think 'well, we're not part of society, so why should society's taboos matter?' I think that the concept of an incestuous relationship would freak him out far more than it would Dean, who is better able to handle the crazy.

I'm not saying 'THE ENTIRE SUPERNATURAL FANDOM IS WRONG', obviously; these are just my thoughts, how it works in my head, and I'd be very happy to hear another fan's perspective. I'm not quite half-way through Series Two yet, so there's a fair chance that episodes I have not yet seen may completely disprove the ideas I've built up about the Winchester brothers.

And 'Croatoan' broke my heart into a million billion tiny pieces, by the way. Just so you know.

[identity profile] amy-wolf.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Also, off on a challenge, what would you think of a remix challenge at TGS? Where people volunteered their fic, and someone else on the com wrote remixes? I thought it might be interesting, and wanted to get a few people's opinions before suggesting anything to the mods.

Interest? Concern? Overwhelmed by the awesome? Immediately thinking of that one story you really hope no one writes a remix for?

[identity profile] amy-wolf.livejournal.com 2008-03-07 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
Cool. It might be worth talking to Anzari, then. See what she thinks.
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[personal profile] loz 2008-03-07 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow! When I get my stuff together, I was going to do the remix at [livejournal.com profile] 1973flashfic. :D Great minds.
Edited 2008-03-07 08:47 (UTC)