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Oh, It Hasn't Happened Yet.

I really have come to like Ashes to Ashes rather a lot over the past few weeks. It's certainly more unashamedly fun than Life on Mars, and Alex's initially-grating insanity has gradually become really rather endearing. I AM SORRY FOR DISLIKING YOU AT FIRST, ALEX. I WANT ONLY GOOD THINGS FOR YOU NOW. No, hang on, possibly Gene doesn't actually count as a good thing. MOSTLY GOOD THINGS. MOSTLY GOOD THINGS, ALEX.

Speaking of giant mechanical spiders, did I mention that 'A Very Supernatural Christmas' means that I now feel as if my heart is going to burst out of my chest with love whenever I see Dean wearing his amulet? As he wears it all the time - seriously, this isn't even an exaggeration, which is half the reason for my uncontrollable love - this means that I am fairly likely to actually fall unconscious from too much Winchester-adoration before long.

Two days ago, my brother threw salt in my face and shouted 'Back, you demon!' I wish my siblings shared my fandoms more often! (Hang on, that makes it sound as if I like having salt thrown in my face. I, er, am not a particular fan of being - oh, dear, there's an opportunity for a truly horrendous pun here and I'm not sure I can resist - as-sa(u)lt-ed (I'm so sorry). I just love it when people around me are fannish.)

I feel that an entry about Ashes to Ashes and Supernatural should really end with an attempt to cross them over in some way (THESE ARE THE RULES OF RIONA'S LIVEJOURNAL), but in all honesty I'm not sure sending the Winchesters back to 1981 would make any difference whatsoever. I suppose Sam would be quite annoyed not to have his laptop, and some (certainly not much) of Dean's music wouldn't be around, but that's about it.

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I generally get weird about my family sharing my fandoms. Except Top Gear. My dad now watches Top Gear with me and laughs at the crazy stunts.

I have not discussed the slash with him. Although he did spot that Jack and Ianto were a couple about a second into watching Torchwood. Even though they weren't naked or kissing or anything for those bits.

Post Devil's Trap (I AM NOT TECHNICALLY UP TO THAT ONE, BUT I SAW IT YEARS AGO) Life on Mars crossover? Or even Ashes to Ashes, if you insist? Sam/Alex? Or Sam/Sam?

Now my brain's simultaneously trying to slash Dean and Gene, and threatening to explode if I pull it off.

ETA: You edited your post to add a horrible pun?

Edited 2008-03-27 22:44 (UTC)

A post-'Devil's Trap' Life on Mars crossover would be perfect! The idea did fleetingly cross my mind when I saw the episode, but at the time I was too busy going 'OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD' to consider it for long. Sam Tyler and Sam Winchester could get on far too well.

I HAVE A TRULY APPALLING LOVE OF TERRIBLE PUNS. WHEN I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY, I CANNOT LET IT PASS BY. Even if it means going out of my way, apparently.

That's why my brain keeps trying to do Dean/Gene! Because Sam and Sam would be all chattering away, getting homesick for their laptops, and complaining about the downsides of fighting crime/demons with macho skirt-chasers who wouldn't talk about their problems if they were bleeding from the eyes. Dean and Gene would totally roll their eyes, go off for a beer, and talk about manly things like guns, hitting things, and their incredibly intense love for their cars.

And part of my brain is insisting that this would somehow lead to sex.

OF COURSE IT WOULD LEAD TO SEX.

And Dean and Gene rhyme, so clearly they are meant to be together - although I think the level of violence between them might be rather unhealthy.

Sam/Sam would be a lot more sensible about the whole thing, but I'm a bit worried about the emo.

That's why Sam/Sam and Dean/Gene work far better as flings than long term relationships. A few days of constant scuffles or wallowing in emo aren't likely to do any real harm, but in the long run, they're both better off with a counterbalance (in Sam and Dean's case, in a completely platonic way, of course).

As usual, you get no disagreement from me (except perhaps about the platonic part, because I am good at denying the consequences)

Dean and Gene bonding over cars and mocking their less manly sidekicks? Oh, yes. I would very much like to see the development of this glorious friendship.

"And he's always whining, 'I want to go back to school! I don't belong here! I want to finish what I came here to do, then go back where it's all normal!' Like he doesn't love it with me."

"Mine's the same way with that Hyde rubbish. To hear it, you'd think he'd been kidnapped. Does yours look at you like you're something he scraped off his shoe every time you get near a bit of skirt, then fall into bed with the first tart he sees?"

"God, yes. I thought he was just jealous, but he finally managed to get laid, and that didn't help. Does yours think he should be allowed to drive?"

"Daft, innit? Like I'm letting him drive my car."

"Exactly! The Impala's my baby! I'm good to her, she's good to me. If I hand her over to someone else, she's not gonna be there when I need her."

I don't particularly like Alex, and Sam (as much as I'm growing to like him) isn't my favorite character on Supernatural.

SO WHY DO I LIKE THEM SO MUCH WHEN THEY'RE PUT TOGETHER?

UNLESS I'M COMPLETELY WRONG, AND ALEXSAM IS ACTUALLY ALEXDEAN.

No, you're right - there's a natural law that says Dean has to be the one in the black T-shirt, I'm pretty sure ;-)

That's good. The idea of Alexdean is just creepy.

I am a little unnerved by how well that works. Salex is terrifying.

I LOVE SALEX AND WANT HER FOR MY NEW GIRLFRIEND!

Since your new girlfriend is probably going to be bisexual, and fond of imaginary people to boot, I think that could work out quite well. *grin*

I just hope she's fond of open relationships.

It's you that's going to have to ask that question, I think ♥

Like I said, she manages to actually communicate or otherwise exist, I'm willing to discuss the options. If not, I'm assuming an open relationship.

I was thinking more about TGC slashers than Salex, but I suppose you are pretty safe in either respect.

And there was something about me being not allowed to do something or other, but it's my bedtime, and my memory seems to be failing

"that makes it sound as if I like having salt thrown in my face."

Perhaps you are merely becoming

halotolerant?

What! You said you liked puns

You should never hold back from terrible punning in my comments! THUMBS UP.

I've just finished S1 of Supernatural, and even though I knew how Devil's Trap went, OH MY GOD!!! I don't think I could bring myself to write fic where worse things happen to the Winchesters than what canon inflicts on them!

There really needs to be a feature where you can reach through the screen and give characters comforting hugs at appropriate moments.

You also need to write that horribly disturbing idea you had about demon-possessed John kissing Dean in that one scene. Because it would be horrible for Dean (particularly right after that thing about needing the family more than they need him), horrible for Sam (who'd be pinned to the wall and have to watch), and horrible for John (possessed, watching a demon in his body do that to his son).

And in complete contradiction of my first paragraph, the Winchesters don't suffer enough.

I hope you're happy; I'm one episode into Season two, and Supernatural has left me a whimpering wreck. Normally I can watch television without getting teary-eyed and making hurt-puppy noises.

Ah, Winchesters!

And is it wrong that I find Dean/Reaper Girl weirdly appealing? She was all kind and sympathetic and looking out for him, and the only downside was that she was trying to get him to die! Really twisted in kind of a sweet way. Plus, she was totally, "I shall give you a comforting hug," and I've been itching for someone to do that since the second or third episode I saw.

*hugs puppy*

We're now at the same place in our episode viewing, although I expect you to overtake me - see nickname. Watching one or two episodes a couple of times a week is good for me, both for the savouring of the story, and the not getting too paranoid either.

I rather liked Dean/Reaper Girl too - to start with I thought she was a real ghost and I figured that if I was ever in that sort of creepy situation then Dean would be the best person to be able to talk to - he was very sweet and explained everything carefully, and she was very sensible. And then the twist, which I should have anticipated, but she was still rather likeable afterwards.

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I tend to watch in spurts, so I'm a little erratic.

That's the thing, she was still likable afterwards. She was sincerely trying to look after Dean and do what was (as far as she knew) the best thing for him. If I'd have been in her position, I'd have done much the same thing.

And she kept touching him, which made my brain go to the Dean-has-a-fling-with-Death mental place, which I hadn't known existed..

I'd just like to point out that you are dangerously close to identifying with Death here, which is normally only valid in Discworld ;-)

But it is Death touching Dean in an affectionate way, so I think that's probably reasonable ♥

and I'm not even going to start on spurts and erratic *grin*

It makes me so happy that you love the characters as much as I do!

Man, an opportunity to torture all three Winchester boys in one go certainly is tempting. I hadn't even considered Sam being forced to watch. I'd really love to see his reaction to that.

(I sort of want to write something that's nice to the Winchesters as an apology for all the crap they have to go through, but I'm not sure I can do it. Have you ever tried being nice to the Winchesters? It's just not possible.)

That'd be pretty nasty for all three. Plus, even if it's nothing more than an inappropriate, horribly disturbing kiss, they're all going to have that moment of worrying that the demon might do more, and knowing they can't stop it. Which would be worst for John, of course, because it's his body and his son. But pretty nasty for Sam. Bad things happening to his brother, Sam's massive daddy issues, "I should be able to help him with my incredibly unreliable telekinesis that's only worked once" issues.

I know what you mean about being nice to the Winchesters. The best I managed was that Top Gear crossover, where Sam and Dean got to hang out with Jeremy one night and drink and pull weird pranks, and nothing bad happened to them the entire story. That was nice.

You could be nice if you aimed small enough? Like Sam and Dean having a really sweet brotherly moment that doesn't center around horrible things happening? Or Sam has a one-night stand with a girl who in the morning gives him a kiss goodbye, calls him sweet, and leaves without suffering any horrible fate whatsoever.

Er, part of my brain may be trying to write Sam/Riona now. In a way that doesn't actually involve you suffering any horrible fate whatsoever (although may suppose you've seen less of the show than you have for plot reasons). But my mind won't quite believe that your name isn't Riona Leon-Hart.

Do Sam and Dean's sweet brotherly moments ever not centre around horrible things happening? STUPID BOYS, WITH THEIR STUPID INABILITY TO EXPRESS HEARTFELT BROTHERLY LOVE WHEN THEIR LIVES AREN'T CRASHING DOWN AROUND THEM. Also, I find the concept of Sam having sex with a girl and her not subsequently dying horribly a difficult one to comprehend. In fact, by now I imagine Sam would probably be too freaked out by the possibility to have sex with anyone.

If you actually did write Sam/Riona, I would be so amused. (You can call me Riona Leonhart if you like! I feel like a Riona Leonhart in real life sometimes, after all.)

So Sam being involved with a girl, no actual sex, and her not dying horribly works? How about Sam being involved with a girl, politely implied out-of-scene sex, and then she gets sucked back into her own reality and he thinks she's died horribly? And would it make a difference if the girl was you?

Not that I'm likely to write it any time soon. I've been horribly bogged down, and unable to get anything done.

Well, he kissed Lori and Sarah, and neither of them died, so I think perhaps the danger is mainly in the sex. And yes, her being sucked back into her own reality would probably work; the universe's aim seems to be more to make Sam miserable than just to kill his girlfriends.

Okay. Now how would you feel about politely-implied out-of-scene fictional sex with Sam Winchester?

I would be totally okay with politely-implied out-of-scene fictional sex with Sam Winchester! It falls within my Sam Winchester/all the girls 'ship, after all, and I could do worse in my fictional sex life than an adorkable demon hunter whom I heart to tiny tiny pieces.

Well, all right, it may be difficult to do worse than an adorkable demon hunter who apparently brings death upon anyone he sleeps with. Still.

That's the great thing; you only wind up apparently dead!

Ah, A Very Supernatural Christmas, the episode that gave me nightmares, I think. It was the man in the bag getting dragged down the stairs. THAT WASN'T RIGHT. But yes, Dean, who breaks into a nice family's house and steals their presents and tree! And it's just about the sweetest thing that anyone has ever done! How does that work?

'A Very Supernatural Christmas' didn't frighten me that much, but it did break my heart rather a lot. SAM. DEAN. STOP BEING SO WONDERFUL; MY SOUL CANNOT TAKE IT.* Also, it forced me to conclude that not enough villains say 'alrighty-roo'.

* You know I don't mean it. Don't ever stop.

Crossovers! \m/

No need to apologise; you made me feel better when I really needed it, even if it was just a comment. &hearts

Whatever happens next year, I'll always be up for hanging out with you while we're in Brighton. Good luck finding a place.

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In retrospect, it probably would've been funnier with Sam and Dean's faces on Gene and Alex.

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