rionaleonhart | PLEASE EXCUSE ME WHILE I STICK MY HEAD IN THIS FOUNTAIN.

I am so conflicted when I think about how Supernatural could potentially end. On the one hand, I cannot envision a good ending for the Winchesters; their story is so dark that I don't think it can ever end well. On the other, if they have a bad ending - if they die, or if they're separated in some way (augh) - I will cry for ever.

At heart, I want nothing but good things for the Winchesters. At the very least, I want something good to happen to them. And by that I mean actually good, not just 'seemingly good but actually full of dark implications and quite possibly causing slow death!' or 'good for half a second before everything goes horribly wrong!', Kripke. And all right, perhaps The Happy Fluffy Adventures of Dean and Sam Winchester wouldn't be quite as successful a series as Supernatural, but SERIOUSLY, WINCHESTERS, CAN'T ANYTHING NOT-HORRENDOUSLY-AWFUL HAPPEN TO YOU? EVER?

And I was probably going to say more on the subject of being absurdly attached to fictional characters, but I have just discovered the Final Fantasy X self-insert I wrote when I was fourteen and I have never been so embarrassed in my life, ashbgdfashgh. SERIOUSLY. THIS IS APPALLING. I was going to quote extracts so you could laugh at my fourteen-year-old self's general ineptitude and, er, inexplicablegiganticcrushonTidus, but I'm not sure I can bring myself to.

I DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO HIDE THE FACT THAT IT WAS A SELF-INSERT. IT WAS ABOUT A GIRL CALLED RIONA. SHE WAS TELEPORTED INTO THE GAME. IT CONTAINS THE SENTENCE 'WOW, HE WAS A BISHOUNEN'. SO MUCH SHAME. Not to mention the fact that it switches viewpoints by going ~Riona's View~. Oh, self.

(I take some solace in the fact that at least she's not SPARKLY PERFECT GIRL; Riona is hopeless at fighting and makes a fool of herself in front of pretty much everyone. I don't know whether that's because I was trying really hard not to make her a Mary Sue or just because I had low self-esteem when I was fourteen.)

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I've seen like twenty people suggest they just get in the Impala and ride off into the sunset. I think I'd like that.

...you're right; that could work, and I can imagine nothing better for them. They can't just settle down and stop hunting, because it wouldn't work at all, but if they put an end to the supernatural world's hold on Sam and drove off into the sunset to carry on saving people, hunting things... yes, that would be a good ending. Closure without cutting-off; not too bleak, and most excellent from a fanfiction-writer's perspective. I want to be able to feel that there's more afterwards.

IDK man I think the show is just going to end. There won't be a conclusion, they'll still be gallivanting around the US fighting demons, they'll just not be showing us any more of it.

That's what I'm hoping for. They can't stop hunting, because there's nothing else I can ever see them doing, and they can't die because I am sure the writers don't want to make me sad (right? ...right? 'Mystery Spot' and 'Heart' and 'Faith' and 'In My Time of Dying' and 'What Is and What Can Never Be' and half the other episodes were accidents, right?), so at the end they can sever their family's weird demonic connections and carry on as regular hunters.

dear Kripke please do not kill my Winchesters please please please

Yeah but, if you remember, those other eps ended happily! Sort of
! For the most part! Right??

I once wrote a fic where the characters of Naruto and Gravitation took over some building, and me and my friend were reporting on the scene, and in the end I think I dry humped Tohma's leg or something. It was basically just a fic where I got to attack all the anime characters I deemed hot at the time.

THE POINT OF THIS STORY: EVERYONE HAS DONE IT.

THAT IS NOT THE BEHAVIOUR OF A PROFESSIONAL REPORTER, RD.

That is reassuring! Thank you! (The problem is that I really rather want everyone else to post snippets of oldfic they're incredibly embarrassed by, but if I can't bring myself to do it I'll never be able to go 'FOLLOW MY LEAD'. IT'S ONLY HARMLESS FUN WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE THE ONES HUMILIATING THEMSELVES.)

I would heartily encourage a post of communal badfic posting!

I don't think I've ever done self insert fic.

I have, however recently found poetry that I wrote only a year ago and I'm TOTALLY ashamed by. To call it "lame emo poetry" would be being nice :S

Havent' been up to date with SPN recently. I figure though, if one of them dies, it would make me ever so slightly happy if he came back as a ghost and they set up a detective agency so it would be like Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased)

I can't really share your hope, because I have an automatic gigantic sadface reaction to the suggestion of one of them dying no matter what the circumstances. But I'll admit that it would be sort of awesome to have a ghost hunting other ghosts. And Dean would have to get over his general 'SPIRITS BAD' attitude if he's working alongside his brother's spirit, which could be interesting. And it would make using salt more difficult if Sam could be repelled by it as well.

So you feel bad about self-inserts, but you're fine with other people inserting you into canon, right? Like me, for instance?

As far as I can tell, they've got two choices; CRUSHING MISERY, in which case they may as well send Dean to Hell, or end on a nice defeating the worst of it and riding off into the sunset to fight smaller and less angst-inducing supernatural menaces. The fuzzy middle stuff (like Dean going to Hell, but Sam summoning him back as a demon who kills other demons), would be generally unsatisfying.

Oh, I'm totally okay with that. I'm fairly sure that other people are going to write better fanfiction about me than my fourteen-year-old self did, after all.

You're right; if they go for the bad ending, they've got to go for a seriously bad ending. And I shall weep.

Excellent! *plots how to hook up Riona with Sam Winchester*

I hope they don't go for the crushing ending. I shall be crushed. I mean they're allowed to have good things that don't backfire horribly or involve massive angst happened to the Winchesters; look at that episode where Dean was a PA. SO WHAT IF THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I CAN THINK OF! IT PROVES THAT IT CAN HAPPEN!

Important characterization question; have you ever heard of the Shanghai Tunnels in Portland, Oregon? Because I think Sam and Dean should be coming from those (reputed to be full of ghosts), and I want to know if you'd recognize what they were off the top of your head.

That was the only episode I could think of when I was searching for an example of Good Things Happening To The Winchesters, too. Sigh. You know you've got some messed-up characters when you're casting around for something good that happened to them recently and end up with '...well, he eventually got out of the appallingly horrible time loop?'

Never heard of the Shanghai Tunnels, I'm afraid. Never even heard of Portland, and I wouldn't be able to point Oregon out on a map.

I know. I came up with "They had a very nice Christmas together", and then my brain filled in all the sad, and angsty, and creepy, and fingernail-pulling stuff, and I realized that if that's the example of relatively cheery, that ain't good.

See, I think the episodes where some good stuff and no particularly bad stuff happens to the Winchesters should be like the "Everybody lives!" moments on Doctor Who; they really need to take place about once a season. Just so we can see them happy.

And I was hoping you would know nothing about Oregon! You're character's so much more interesting if she's a bit lost and confused.

I. I DON'T THINK THERE ARE WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE AMUSEMENT THAT FLOWS FROM THIS ENTRY.

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Oh Rinoa.

PLEASE EXCUSE ME WHILE I STICK MY HEAD IN THIS FOUNTAIN.

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