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'Hats. ...NOT YOU.'

I am now on series three of Waterloo Road! Good news for Tom: he is now the Tom I love, rather than the Tom I want to punch in the face. Bad news for Tom: he had to live through the last few episodes of the second series to get there.

Oh, fine, Tom, you'll hug Chlo. You'll give Izzie's daughter multiple long lovely hugs, but does your son get any fatherly embracing at all? No. No, he does not. For goodness' sake, give the boy a hug before his need for physical affection reaches a point at which he confuses it with sexual desire. It could happen, and you'll have only yourself to blame when it does. (Well, yourself and

apiphile, who I'm sure will be somehow responsible.)

Seriously, he and Chlo share emotional hugs no fewer than five times in the first seven episodes of series three. This is simply not fair.

(I... wouldn't say no to Tom/Chlo, actually. Tom, stop making me 'ship you with inappropriate people. Waterloo Road presents me with a bit of a dilemma, because on the one hand I love it when Tom is fatherly (he refers to Chlo and Mika as 'my girls'! awww), and on the other I want him to shag everyone.)

reipan has been visiting! Earlier, she mentioned to my mother that she was going to Japan for a year.

Riona's Mum: Didn't you have a rather awful time the last time you were in Japan?
Rei: The last time, yes, but it should be better now because I'm over the age of consent.
Riona: You were over the age of consent last time.
Rei: ...no, I wasn't.
Riona: It's fourteen, isn't it? (post-research note: the national age of consent is in fact thirteen.)
Rei: ...for sex, yes, but the age of consent -
Riona: That's what the age of consent means.
Rei: ...
Riona: Did you mean the age of majority?
Rei: Shut up.
Riona: I did think you were being a bit overfamiliar with my mother.
Rei: Shut up.

Rei would like me to make it clear that she is a perfectly lovely houseguest and not generally in the habit of discussing her sexual practices with her friends' mothers.

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Waterloo Road presents me with a bit of a dilemma, because on the one hand I love it when Tom is fatherly (he refers to Chlo and Mika as 'my girls'! awww), and on the other I want him to shag everyone.

Oh right that's MY FAULT.

his need for physical affection reaches a point at which he confuses it with sexual desire

CLEARLY JOSH IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS THAT PROBLEM.

LOOK, IF I DON'T KEEP BLAMING YOU I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FACE THE FACT THAT I WROTE PART OF A JOSH/TOM FIC AT LEAST PARTIALLY OF MY OWN ACCORD. I CAN'T DO THAT.

I am evidently in as much denial as Tom is.

I do not wish to dent your ego in any way, but you are not quite as hot as Tom when doing the denial thing.

I am very sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings on this front.

Pfft, see if I let you straddle me against my conscience now.

Pfft, see if I let you straddle me against my conscience now.

I am both intrigued and confused by this phrase. How does one straddle a person against their conscience?

(My mental picture involves Riona's conscience somehow incarnated as a separate entity, and a sort of complicated apiphile/Riona/Riona's Conscience sandwich arrangement, but I think I can safely assume that didn't happen.)

It is a reference to, erm, the terrifying Waterloo Road incest fic that she and I ill-advisedly wrote together. So no physical consciences (and indeed as yet no actual straddling) involved, although that would be interesting.

...okay, I think I preferred my version better.

I'm sorry! She made me write it. Mostly. Well, she was definitely the one who put the idea in my head.

It's okay. I'm dealing with it by not actually reading the fic. And it's not exactly like I can be all "How dare people write creepy and twisted things!" is it?

And it's not exactly like I can be all "How dare people write creepy and twisted things!" is it?

Hee, fair point.

If you're not reading it (which is a decision with which I can find no fault), I feel the need to assure you for the sake of my incest-writing reputation that it is at least portrayed as twisted, rather than 'SEX WITH YOUR BIOLOGICAL SON: OFFICIALLY A GREAT IDEA'. Of course, knowing my habit of breaking resolutions not to write things, happy functional incestfic probably isn't too far away.

You should just never announce that you're not going to write things. You inevitably end up horrifying yourself.

I have the oddest incest-squick when it comes to fic. The more happy and functional they are, the more squicked I am. So if it's non-consensual incest, I'm not really squicked, because that safely falls into my "Bad and wrong!" mental box. If it's twisted consensual incest, I generally avoid it, although I can very rarely be sucked in (if it was for a show I cared about, the fact that you wrote it would probably be enough to get me to read it, but the combination of consensual incest and "I have no interest in this show!" is enough to get me to not read). Happy funtime incest fic makes my skin crawl.

That's more or less how my own incest squick works. Plus there's the fact that, when I read incest fic, it's generally not for the sex or for the relationship but specifically for the twistedness. There's so much opportunity for interesting mental anguish! Why squander that in favour of functionality?

Yeah. The perceived hotness is not the draw for me, either. The one fictional incestuous pairing where I did go "Damn, they'd be hot together!" left me going "I really wish they weren't sisters!", because the incest aspect is squicky enough to kill the hotness for me.

before his need for physical affection reaches a point at which he confuses it with sexual desire
It CAN happen and Tom, if you don't, someone else might. Someone with fewer morals. I would threaten with a specific name and I suppose Finn might work, but I don't think that's even close to a good outcome.

*laughs* Oh poor Reipan. But hopefully she will have as good a time as...expected. What is she going for? Work?

Tom, if you don't, someone else might. Someone with fewer morals. I would threaten with a specific name and I suppose Finn might work, but I don't think that's even close to a good outcome.

I am a bit mystified! If Tom doesn't what? I can't imagine that you're suggesting Finn would be sensitive enough to give Josh a much-needed hug, but nor can I imagine that you're encouraging Tom to have sex with his son.

It's for her university course, I believe! She's studying Japanese.

I, yes, well. I am not good at this, clearly.

What I MEANT was that if Tom doesn't go with the hugging as physical affection, Josh will most likely end up with someone who would, perhaps encourage the confusion for sexual desire. And then take advantage, obviously. Enter something I could totally see Finn doing, based on what I know of him and his Issues.

This made more sense in my headplace.

Very cool! Japan does seem rather like it would be a good place to study Japanese.

What I MEANT was that if Tom doesn't go with the hugging as physical affection, Josh will most likely end up with someone who would, perhaps encourage the confusion for sexual desire. And then take advantage, obviously. Enter something I could totally see Finn doing, based on what I know of him and his Issues.

...well, now I totally want to read this fic. (Sorry, Josh.)

...

Hm. That would mean someone would have to write it, then.

*reads above comment thread between you and Del*

*dies laughing*

I kept misreading Chlo for Cho there. Discuss.

...erm. Well, were Cho Tom's semi-adopted child (he refers to Chlo and Mika as his stepdaughters, but as he didn't marry their mother that's not technically true), there would probably be quite a lot less hugging. Beyond that, I have no idea how it would work.

Well somehow it would involve Patrick Jane cold-reading Tom and revealing his, erm, *feelings* for Josh at an incredibly awkward moment.

NOOOOOO I NEED TO STOP THINKING ABOUT JOSH/TOM

I NEED TO MAKE AMENDS FOR THAT FIC

ADMITTEDLY CERTAIN COMMENTS IN THIS ENTRY AREN'T REALLY HELPING WITH THAT

I'm sorry, guys! I promise I'll write some nice non-incestuous fanfiction about your father-son relationship at some point.

that would be a pretty amazing scene, though

The age of consent in Japan is thirteen? BUT THE AGE OF MAJORITY IS TWENTY. I am so confused. (Also using a lot of italics right here.)

I STILL NEED TO CATCH UP ON WATERLOO ROAD!

I know! It seems a bizarrely large gap. Plus it feels a bit weird that the age of consent is lower than it is here but the age of majority is higher.

YES. YES, YOU DO.

I'm on series 3, episode 7. And I am WAITING for Finn, just so I can write hot, angsty, sadomasochistic porn.
Also, may I ask what you thought of my writing? You are allowed to say it's shit :)

I should probably say that the above was me. Sorry!

My goodness, you move fast! I'm around the same point: series three, episode eight.

I'm afraid I haven't read your writing yet, because I'm in London at the moment and on the family computer, and I prefer to read things on my laptop. I'm returning to Brighton tomorrow, though, so I'll be able to take a look at it soon!

May I ask what you think of Tom? I adore him for the most part, but the first couple of series don't give a terribly good impression of him. (Also, Tom/Izzie/Lorna: yes or no? I think a lot of pain and sadness could have been avoided had they all just shagged in that cottage.)

Sweet. I hope you like it, but again, tell me if you think it's shit.

Huh. Tom. Definitely fuckable, and that's always a good place to start from. He seems a bit childish, though, a little self-absorbed. But I don't think he's a bad person or malicious.

And no, because I only find Tom aesthetically pleasing. Mind you, I don't think I would have minded Tom/Andrew. Because I AM ANDREW. We are the same person. Seriously.

Definitely fuckable, and that's always a good place to start from.
because I only find Tom aesthetically pleasing.

Ahahaha, you are so shallow. (Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it did amuse me a bit.)

I don't really identify with any Waterloo Road characters, but, come to think of it, Andrew is probably the closest to me as well. I'm not as assertive as he is, though.

Incredibly shallow. It's why I'm so self-loathing. But why shouldn't I be? People value things that look nice, be that pretty or cool or just impressive, even if they serve no purpose. That applies to human beings, too.

Thing is, I'm not nearly that assertive, either. I can't tell people they're wrong, not if I truly value their opinion or friendship, even if I know/believe that they are wrong. But Andrew has that slightly out of place, mildly snobbish, not-quite-raised-in-the-real-world thing about him that I've come to realise I also have.

Still, as the series goes on, I'm liking the new English teacher (the adorable Scottish one) more and more. She's so cute! And just... I really really wish she taught me, you know what I mean?

YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON

it's an easy mistake to make

shut up

Hey, I'm just trying to save you awkward silences in the future. It is a noble mockery.

...I-I keep meaning to tell you I loved that fic, but then I would have to admit it I read it entirely for the dubious content, as I don't actually know Waterloo Road.

--apparently I consider giving you props more important than protecting my reputation.

Hee, thank you very much! Every person who liked it makes me feel a little less awful for having a part in writing the thing, so I appreciate your willingness to endanger your own reputation.

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