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Riona ([personal profile] rionaleonhart) wrote2018-07-12 04:25 pm

Can't Keep Myself Together.

Riona: I wrote something that wasn't fucked up! I'm proud of myself.
Ginger: Are you sure? You've thought that before.
Riona: Yes, but I really think this fic... oh. Right. Connor does murder an android in it. I forgot.
Ginger: Why does he murder it?
Riona: He's trying to sneak through a house, and the android threatens to alert the house's owner, and Connor just rips its heart out of its chest.
Ginger: ...
Riona: BUT IT'S NOT MESSED UP, GINGER, IT'S FINE.


I've got all these Detroit: Become Human fic ideas, but none of them are clicking. Concepts currently floating around inside my head:

- Connor antagonistically makes out with a duplicate of himself while Hank looks on in horror. (Maybe he doesn't make out with himself, but there should definitely be weird interactions with an uncomfortably sexual undertone and Hank should definitely be unhappy about it. Connor... sexually disassembles himself? THIS IS A BAD IDEA AND I CAN'T WRITE IT.)

- Hank gets into the bad habit of killing Connor whenever he needs to let off some steam.

- Connor loses control of his 'preconstruction' function and is unable to tell what's prediction and what's reality (WHAT A SURPRISE).

- Connor is killed while accessing another android's memories and those memories are accidentally uploaded into his next body with him, meaning he functionally ends up sharing a body with Kara or Markus.

They're all interesting to me, but I can't work out where to take any of them! It's very frustrating. (Also, none of them let me go 'HA, GINGER, I CAN WRITE THINGS THAT AREN'T SCREWED UP.')

Another concept I just found scribbled down in my notebook: Are androids designed to respond differently to different humans? To be protective of children? Is it possible that Carl and Markus became involved when Carl was younger, and then as Carl got older Markus went 'oh crap my "see you as a father figure" programming is kicking in'? This is probably a very bad idea and definitely doesn't fit into the game's timeline; Carl must have been in his sixties at least when he received Markus.

Also in my notebook, although these are more general ponderings than fic concepts:

How do androids make decisions? What heuristics do they use? Is there an element of randomness?

Both Kara and Markus cry. Androids are designed to cry? Under what circumstances?
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[personal profile] wolfy_writing 2018-07-12 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel you. I was all "This is a light and fun fic I wrote that is not messed up! ...it's also why my search engine history includes trying to find out how much blood is in the average eight-year-old boy."

I suddenly desperately want to read about Connor sexually disassembling himself.

And Hank killing Connor to blow off steam would be good! How would Connor react?

CONNOR LOSING CONTROL OF HIS ABILITY TO TELL WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S A PREDICTION! I WANT THAT! (What point in the game timeline would that be? How would that play out in terms of "This is Connor, our friend who needs help" versus "Scrap the broken robot, get a new one"? How would Connor try to navigate that when he couldn't tell which decisions he'd already made?)

...I really want to know about why they gave them a crying function, because in terms of why humans would specifically want to see a robot crying...yeah, that would get dark fast.

(On a lighter note, that robot I'm geeking out on in front of beings of vast cosmic powers, crying: https://i1.wp.com/berkeleyplaceblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/IMG_8060.png?fit=630%2C716)
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[personal profile] wolfy_writing 2018-07-12 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I'm pleased that one of my works in progress involves weird sexual robot disassembly and you managed to come up with an even weirder scenario.
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[personal profile] wolfy_writing 2018-07-12 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that was one of my "I should finish this fic so I can explain if I end up on any watch lists."

Making it worse would make it so much better!

Possibly at some point Hank would casually pull a gun on a human colleague and then go 'wait, fuck, no, not supposed to shoot people.'

I really, really want that now. (Also, like this would stall out any relationship development between Hank and Connor, because of the extent to which it stalls Connor's emotional development, so this could be all "If I just keep killing about him, I won't have to deal with any of this caring about each other that is threatening to develop.")

Okay, I definitely want the prediction function fic now.
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[personal profile] magistrate 2018-07-13 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
[It's hard to work it out! Although we do get the 'why did you shoot me last night?' scene in canon. I think maybe Connor would be put out at first, and then get increasingly jumpy and scared around Hank, and then they'd both get weirded out by this because androids aren't supposed to be scared. Possibly at some point Hank would casually pull a gun on a human colleague and then go 'wait, fuck, no, not supposed to shoot people.']

Scares the fuck out of Gavin one day?

Clearly what needs to happen is that this is when Connor and Hank are hostile because Connor is a machine, but, well, we know that going deviant is frequently triggered by a trauma, emotional shock, or torture...

So, congratulations, Hank! Your plastic partner is a real boy now! Unfortunately he also wants to kill you.