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rionaleonhart) wrote2023-04-01 05:11 pm
rionaleonhart) wrote2023-04-01 05:11 pm
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You Tricked Me Into Being Decent?
Had an embarrassingly sexy dream about Jack Shephard last night. Let's not talk about that.
I'm up to episode 4.08 of Lost, 'Meet Kevin Johnson'!
'The Other Woman': I love the way it rains on the island. Absolutely sheeting down. It's very satisfying, somehow.
Poor Daniel seems like a very straightforward, honest person trapped in a web of ridiculous machinations. Unless he's an evil mastermind and I've been taken in by his mild-mannered behaviour? Daniel generally comes across as trustworthy to me, but there's been one moment that made me suspicious of him: at one point in an earlier episode, Frank glanced at him as if looking for instructions.
Ben, you cannot kill your romantic competition! Terrible behaviour! I realise you haven't exactly given us cause to expect great behaviour from you, but that's still very bad. Everyone else on the island is perfectly capable of getting into convoluted love polygons without feeling the need to murder each other.
Jack's never initiated a kiss on this show before - Kate's kissed him, Juliet's kissed him, Jack himself has never taken that step - and I am not at all surprised that what finally prompts him to kiss someone is 'you should stay away from me or you'll get murdered'. He doesn't like people telling him what to do!
I'm enjoying the unlikely friendship between Sawyer and Hurley.
'Ji Yeon': okay, so the Oceanic Six are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin. Locke, Rose and Bernard all actively want to stay on the island, so their absence may not be cause for concern. Claire and Sawyer are in Locke's camp, so it's possible they just stayed on the island, but why would Aaron have left the island if Claire stayed? And then there's the question of what happened to the approximately thirty background survivors; I doubt Locke won all of them over.
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AT
I thought at first that Jin had faked his own death, but, on reflection, it seems more likely that the Sun scenes were in the future and the Jin scenes were in the past. Uh-oh.
Jin's tombstone gives his date of death as the date of the crash, so presumably he either died on the island or remained on the island and became part of the 'all but a few people died in the crash' narrative. It seems unlikely he'd stay behind if Sun left, and Sun and Hurley described visiting his grave as visiting him (which doesn't necessarily mean there's a body in the grave but does strongly imply that Jin doesn't have a living presence elsewhere in the world), so Jin probably is dead, alas.
Whatever the case, this means that Jin is not one of the Oceanic Six; there's still one person who both survived and escaped! Sawyer? Michael seems to be living under a different name, so he's probably not one of the Six, and I imagine Walt might be in a similar position; Aaron is in Kate's care, so something's probably befallen Claire; Locke, Rose and Bernard are very invested in staying; that leaves Sawyer.
The other possibilities I'm leaning towards are a) it's Locke, the least likely possibility, just to confuse everyone, or b) it's a nameless background character, just to troll everyone.
I'm glad Hurley visited Sun, in any case! I get the impression the survivors aren't spending a lot of time together off the island, which is a bit of a shame, so that was nice to see.
How many times has Lost tricked me regarding where or when a scene takes place? It feels like several thousand by this point. I've managed to guess a couple of things in recent episodes - that Kate's son would be Aaron and that the mole on the boat would be Michael - but this show continues to deceive me at every turn.
'Meet Kevin Johnson': Michael told Walt about killing Ana Lucia and Libby! That's such a fascinating detail that it seems like a waste for it to have happened completely offscreen.
That felt like a fairly slow episode of Lost, perhaps because it focused on a single storyline when I'm used to this show jumping between three or four plotlines at a time. And then at the end it suddenly killed off two characters, because there is no such thing as a slow episode of Lost.
I can definitely see why Lost made such an impact. I've never watched anything quite like it before.
More than anything, it actually reminds me of the 'plot twists and murder' videogame genre I'm so fond of. If you're a fan of games like Danganronpa and Zero Escape and Your Turn to Die - stories where a group of strangers are thrown together by circumstance and struggle to survive while uncovering bizarre mysteries - I would absolutely recommend giving Lost a try.
I'm up to episode 4.08 of Lost, 'Meet Kevin Johnson'!
'The Other Woman': I love the way it rains on the island. Absolutely sheeting down. It's very satisfying, somehow.
Poor Daniel seems like a very straightforward, honest person trapped in a web of ridiculous machinations. Unless he's an evil mastermind and I've been taken in by his mild-mannered behaviour? Daniel generally comes across as trustworthy to me, but there's been one moment that made me suspicious of him: at one point in an earlier episode, Frank glanced at him as if looking for instructions.
Ben, you cannot kill your romantic competition! Terrible behaviour! I realise you haven't exactly given us cause to expect great behaviour from you, but that's still very bad. Everyone else on the island is perfectly capable of getting into convoluted love polygons without feeling the need to murder each other.
Jack's never initiated a kiss on this show before - Kate's kissed him, Juliet's kissed him, Jack himself has never taken that step - and I am not at all surprised that what finally prompts him to kiss someone is 'you should stay away from me or you'll get murdered'. He doesn't like people telling him what to do!
I'm enjoying the unlikely friendship between Sawyer and Hurley.
'Ji Yeon': okay, so the Oceanic Six are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin. Locke, Rose and Bernard all actively want to stay on the island, so their absence may not be cause for concern. Claire and Sawyer are in Locke's camp, so it's possible they just stayed on the island, but why would Aaron have left the island if Claire stayed? And then there's the question of what happened to the approximately thirty background survivors; I doubt Locke won all of them over.
WH
AT
I thought at first that Jin had faked his own death, but, on reflection, it seems more likely that the Sun scenes were in the future and the Jin scenes were in the past. Uh-oh.
Jin's tombstone gives his date of death as the date of the crash, so presumably he either died on the island or remained on the island and became part of the 'all but a few people died in the crash' narrative. It seems unlikely he'd stay behind if Sun left, and Sun and Hurley described visiting his grave as visiting him (which doesn't necessarily mean there's a body in the grave but does strongly imply that Jin doesn't have a living presence elsewhere in the world), so Jin probably is dead, alas.
Whatever the case, this means that Jin is not one of the Oceanic Six; there's still one person who both survived and escaped! Sawyer? Michael seems to be living under a different name, so he's probably not one of the Six, and I imagine Walt might be in a similar position; Aaron is in Kate's care, so something's probably befallen Claire; Locke, Rose and Bernard are very invested in staying; that leaves Sawyer.
The other possibilities I'm leaning towards are a) it's Locke, the least likely possibility, just to confuse everyone, or b) it's a nameless background character, just to troll everyone.
I'm glad Hurley visited Sun, in any case! I get the impression the survivors aren't spending a lot of time together off the island, which is a bit of a shame, so that was nice to see.
How many times has Lost tricked me regarding where or when a scene takes place? It feels like several thousand by this point. I've managed to guess a couple of things in recent episodes - that Kate's son would be Aaron and that the mole on the boat would be Michael - but this show continues to deceive me at every turn.
'Meet Kevin Johnson': Michael told Walt about killing Ana Lucia and Libby! That's such a fascinating detail that it seems like a waste for it to have happened completely offscreen.
That felt like a fairly slow episode of Lost, perhaps because it focused on a single storyline when I'm used to this show jumping between three or four plotlines at a time. And then at the end it suddenly killed off two characters, because there is no such thing as a slow episode of Lost.
I can definitely see why Lost made such an impact. I've never watched anything quite like it before.
More than anything, it actually reminds me of the 'plot twists and murder' videogame genre I'm so fond of. If you're a fan of games like Danganronpa and Zero Escape and Your Turn to Die - stories where a group of strangers are thrown together by circumstance and struggle to survive while uncovering bizarre mysteries - I would absolutely recommend giving Lost a try.
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Ah, that's interesting; I did wonder! I was going 'I suppose the rain on the show is probably similar to the actual rain they get on location' right up to the point where the show depicted exactly the same sort of tropical rainstorm in Scotland, at which point I went 'hang on a moment'. Thank you for the insight!
I'm glad you're enjoying my posts! I'm very much enjoying writing down all my a) confused speculation, b) confused reactions, c) indiscriminate shipping and d) overanalysis of everything Jack does.
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I'm intrigued by this statement because it's nearly 20 years now, and there were certainly a lot of imitators and shows clearly inspired by LOST. I guess the original remains the original.
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Where you're up to now is as far as was completed before the writers' strike that year, and at one point was looking like that was going to be the series finale (I think, but may be wrong, it was resolved somewhere around the time that aired).
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*SNORT* I'm assuming Ben doesn't get to join the headcanon polycule. xD
"I can definitely see why Lost made such an impact. I've never watched anything quite like it before."
It's interesting to hear this from someone who watched the 'inspired by Lost' shows first (The 100 is one of the pretty big ones), because for 15+ years I've been consciously and subconsciously looking for something that will feel the same way and nothing does. Yellowjackets and The Wilds (Yellowjackets being much more Lost-like, imo) are both my faaaavorite shows, and it's obviously because of the similarities, but I'm still irrationally waiting for something that IS Lost, lmao, knowing that only Lost can BE Lost. xD
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Ben watches and provides snide commentary until they all throw him into the ocean.
Of the things I've watched, The 100 and How to Get Away with Murder probably come closest to Lost. The 100 is about people being stranded in a hostile, wild environment and having to adjust; How to Get Away with Murder has a completely different setting and lacks Lost's magical aspects, but it shares the qualities of 'people bonding through bizarre experiences', 'flashforwards slowly revealing crucial parts of the story' and 'what the fuck is going on'. But Lost is very much its own thing; nothing else feels quite the same!
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