rionaleonhart: final fantasy x-2: the sun is rising, yuna looks to the future. (all i wanted)
Riona ([personal profile] rionaleonhart) wrote2008-11-09 09:34 pm

You Must Have The Will.


Freaking 'Lazarus Rising', forcing me to say 'the first episode of the fourth season' every time I refer to it in a non-spoilery zone. OOH, THE TITLE OF THE EPISODE IS 'LAZARUS RISING'. I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS IN IT? Seriously, Supernatural. Seriously.

Anyway. Perhaps it was not, in fact, that spoilery, because maybe

maybe

MAYBE DEAN HAS BEEN IN HELL FOR THE WHOLE OF THIS SEASON

AND THAT IS WHY MOST OF IT HAS BEEN FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW

AND HE'LL SNAP BACK ONTO HIS MEATHOOKS AT ANY MOMENT AND A YELLOW-EYED VISION OF SAM WILL LAUGH AT HIM AND SAY 'OH, DEAN, YOU REALLY THOUGHT YOU HAD ESCAPED?'

IT COULD ACTUALLY MAKE 'IT WAS ALL A DREAM' COOL

...er, of course that scene in 'Metamorphosis' in which Dean is unconscious would be sort of problematic there. Never mind. And there are only so many episodes you can have before an 'it was all a dream' reveal, no matter how awesome, would just invalidate too much.

I like to think that at least some of Dean's time in Hell was spent with Hell tricking him into believing he'd escaped and then dragging him back into reality, and so Dean still hasn't quite accepted the idea that maybe he's really out of there this time. Because it is fun to be cruel to Dean. I'M SORRY, DEAN. You know I love you. It is not my fault that you are immensely tormentable.

(I also like to think that sometimes Hell threw Dean into Silent Hill. And then reunited him with an illusion of Sam, and then killed that Sam viciously as an unforeseen but theoretically foreseeable consequence of something Dean did.

OKAY, DEAN, YOUR LITTLE FACE IN MY MIND IS MAKING ME FEEL REALLY GUILTY FOR MAKING AN ENTRY ENTIRELY ABOUT HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPENING TO YOU. I... also hope... Hell... gave him... cake?)

Speaking to [livejournal.com profile] amy_wolf has made me wonder whether Sam is still in a state of cannot-function-without-Dean or whether the months of, you know, functioning without Dean have left him capable of surviving without his brother. The thought that Sam can live without Dean actually upsets me. SAM, THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO LIVE AND BREATHE AND EAT AND THINK WHEN YOUR BROTHER ISN'T THERE SOUNDS DANGEROUSLY HEALTHY TO ME. YOU GO BACK TO BEING TERRIFYINGLY CO-DEPENDENT RIGHT NOW.

[identity profile] iwrotethissong.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
BEST HORROR MOVIE ENDING EVER.
better than hostel. better than hostel II.
better than saw. better than saw II. or III. or IV. or V.
better than dying breed. (but let's face it, anything is better than that ending)
better than anything.

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, it was definitely better than Hostel and Saw, because Hostel and Saw were all about LOL LET'S TORTURE SOME PEOPLE FOR NO APPARENT REASON and seriously, didn't Jigsaw die permanently in 2 or 3 and what the hell is up with all his apprentices, seriously?

I haven't seen Dying Breed, though.

[identity profile] iwrotethissong.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
BLASPHEMER. hostel is amazing. eli roth is incredible. (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=18674796&albumID=804367&imageID=28426925)

i only saw dying breed because it had leigh whannell in it, and i've loved him for so long. he wrote saw! he's adam! and he's from melbourne, and we gotta support the local people, you know.
i don't know if dying breed is being released internationally. i hope so. only because i want people to see leigh with his original accent.

jigsaw died in III, and IV took place at the same time as III. and V was a flashback to before II.
but yeah, he's been dead all this time.

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
And I have seen Hostel, but it was a bit like those Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies. Oh look, group of friends in an area strange to them! Oh look, group of people catching passersby for hours of torture and killing fun! Except that with Hostel the main guy escapes and gets some revenge, whereas in TCM the people who get away always get caught again because the police or the lorry driver who is passing by is In On It.

"jigsaw died in III, and IV took place at the same time as III. and V was a flashback to before II.
but yeah, he's been dead all this time."

That sounds needlessly complicated :/

[identity profile] iwrotethissong.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
it is needlessly complicated. understandable, as III is the last saw movie that whannell had any part in writing. it's a money-making franchise, pretty much. it's a shame because the first one was about true horror. making awful choices, being trapped, turning on each other. they tried to duplicate that last one in II but it sort of spiralled out of control.

i loved hostel because it was the first crazy horror movie i had ever seen. like, obscene torture horror. there are some parts that just kill me. like when paxton is talking to that crazy guy (who ends up blowtorching the japanese girl), and the guy asks, 'should i do it slow, or make it quick?'
and paxton stares at him for ages and finally says 'make it quick'.
or when paxton says 'well i'm a vegetarian and it's not my nature'.
actually, when paxton does anything in that movie. jay hernandez is great.

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