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Riona ([personal profile] rionaleonhart) wrote2007-02-26 04:32 pm

Death By Tiny Walking Tomato Is Just Embarrassing.

Final Fantasy XII finally came out in Europe a few days ago, and I got my hands on a copy this morning. First impressions!

- Good Lord, this game is pretty. Although the opening video did make me think 'er, hang on, I didn't mean to buy a Lord of the Rings game.'
- Silver hair is obviously bad luck in this world.
- I cannot stop thinking of Vaan as 'Tidus Mark II'. Also, he sounds like a woman. And walks like one, too. I may just be picking up on this because I've been reading and maybe possibly writing too much genderswap lately.
- WHY DO ALL THE EVIL PEOPLE HAVE BRITISH ACCENTS? I had no idea we were so sinister! Well, all right, I did, because we have the grand tradition of being villainous in films. Still, I find it terribly amusing.
- I hated and despised the battle system at first - possibly because it is replacing the basic underlying battle system that has worked perfectly well for eleven Final Fantasy games and which I was very comfortable with, thank you very much - but I've only played for a couple of hours and, although I'm not exactly prepared to defend it to the hilt yet, I've already lost a lot of my hatred for it.
- Awww, Giza Rabbits! When I attacked one, it didn't fight back - it just ran away from me a lot and then cast Protect on itself, and then I realised that I would never have the heart to kill one ever.
- I am so desperately looking forward to Fran and Balthier showing up. All I know about them is that they are sky pirates and apparently awesome, and THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
- Rogue Tomato? Stupidest monster ever.
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[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
...A Rogue Tomato? See, in roleplaying games based on the D&D system, you get the Gelatinous Cube, which, depending on which game, is either a complete BASTARD who steals your hard-earned short sword and then never gives it back even if you kill it, or a very laughable foe who makes you giggle for five minutes before KILLING IT TO DEATH HAHAHA.

Also, British accents + any person = twice the sinister/villainyness, much like Red + any car = twice the sinister/villainyness. Don't refute this, it's a FACT that red cars look more evil than any other colour!

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...A tomato with a SKIRT?! I want to see a picture of ridiculous thing.

Is it a white, slightly long-haired one? Also, you need a big desk and a swivelly chair. Also, re the red Dodge Charger, if you're going for this (http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/162784,12781,0,1119/photo.aspx), I don't think that works. You need a car that looks evil already. See this Ferrari, which already looks evil and then EXTRA evil. (http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/94879,10705,0,0/photo.aspx).

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn! How're we supposed to decide which enemy is more ridiculous if we can't compare their looks?

Exactly, all evil villains need to start small. You could start by taking over Ayr, or something.

I checked conceptcarz.com, and apparently they've made several dozen different Dodge Chargers, and one of them might be a villainy car, but I'd go with the Ferrari instead.

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
You hallucinating a skirt on a tomate slightly worries me, as do the in-game fangs. Honestly, what were they on? What does the tomato do, anyway? Does it vant to suck your ketchup?

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
...Desert couriers are USELESS.

[identity profile] squeemu.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I have not played very much of it! But I have played it approximately 13 more hours than you, so I feel like I can say that while it took me a long time to get used to the battle system, I like it much better now. Although it feels like I'm in even less control, but at least I get to change party leaders so I don't have to see stupid Vaan and his stupid woman run!

NOT EVERYONE WHO HAS A BRITISH ACCENT IS EVIL! You just haven't met any of the cool characters yet.

GOD I HATE VAAN SO MUCH. PLUCKY ORPHAN SYNDROME, STAB STAB STAB. Er. I mean. Haha! Vaan. Man. It's definitely not just because of genderswap, it's one of the first things I noticed about him. Other than his horribly annoying voice!

Giza rabbits! I had the same reaction. Except, um, then I ran around attacking them to get good prizes. But I felt really badly about it.

I think I read somewhere -- possibly it was a VG Cats comic -- that the battle system was like peeing on your enemies. And now I can't stop picturing that with those funny lines going everywhere.

I like to think that the Rogue Tomato is actually another plucky orphan who dressed up as a tomato -- did you see the stitches it had on it?! CLEARLY IT IS A COSTUME -- who wanted to steal goods to get money to live, and that Vaan just went and killed it. ...I mostly think this because I hate Vaan. I'm a terrible person.

It occurs to me that most my reply is full of negative things, which is odd, because so far, I really like the game. It gets much, much better once you get some more people in your party. And you're right, it is so very pretty. And I actually really like the magic system! I use magic so much more here than with other Final Fantasies because your MP goes up as you walk around, so I'm not afraid to waste it. Hooray!

[identity profile] squeemu.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm not positive they have good prizes. I don't remember if they're pelts sold for more than the wolf pelts. SO DO NOT LET GOOD PRIZES SWAY YOU FROM YOUR PATH OF GOODNESS! I do it sometimes too! But apparently not with the Giza Rabbits. I'm unable to kill Mesmerizes, though, and become very angry at Odin when he appears randomly and Zantetsukens them off.

Hoorah! I sort of hope nothing happens later on in the game that makes me like him more, but I think that's just because I'm slightly immature about these things.

I know there is a VG Cats comic about the licences (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=215)! It's pretty idiotic.

[identity profile] thebaconfat.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I just loved "Rogue Tomato: The Hunt Begins" (ominous music). That is pretty much the only thing I loved about the game until Fran and Balthier showed up omg they are awesome and is my mission in life to finish the game entirely so that I will know more about how awesome they are and also so I can write fic where they run around having sky pirate adventures with Jack Harkness. And by 'sky pirate adventures' I mean LOADS AND LOADS OF SHAGGING.

I've only played about 10 hours so far, and then I got distracted by Rule of Rose, though, so I really don't have the authority to be saying that much about it.

No game has ever made me feel more guilty about killing enemies than Metal Gear Solid 3, though. HINT I AM STILL TRYING TO GET YOU TO PLAY IT HINT

Also, *ROFL* at the license system. I so want to be a cop in the FFXII world. "Do you have a permit to wear those pants?"

ALSO I LOVE THE RANDOM BRITISH ACCENTS, THEY ARE AWESOME

[identity profile] thebaconfat.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I had smiliar LOTR thoughts at the opening video. "Did -- did the Star Wars prequels and the LOTR movies have a baby together?"

[identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what this thing is you speak of, but I am intrigued by sweet-sounding Giza Rabbits that run away a lot!

I know I'm going to miss her/A tomato ate my sister

[identity profile] wolfenkahlon.livejournal.com 2007-02-26 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
AAAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjOsv3WlPWw) D-don't say 't-t-tomato'! There's nothing funny about Killer Tomatoes! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_Killer_Tomatoes:_The_Animated_Series)


Gah, I've only just this weekend finally started FFX! oh well, now that I actually have a PS2 I can plough straight into XII immediately afterwards.


There's something extremely sad about the fact that the strategy guide arrived on these shores before the actual game did.

nano_moose: Final Fantasy X. Yuna standing on sunset-limned water with her arms at her sides before she begins the Sending Dance. (lack of content)

[personal profile] nano_moose 2007-02-26 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually hate random encounters, and I always have, so I am incredibly gleeful about their departure. I mean, they've been around since the pixel days, they break immersion, they're annoying and impossible to plan for. Besides, if they made eleven games with the same formula, SURELY IT IS TIME FOR SOMETHING NEW?

Of course my opinion on this is invalid because we still haven't got it yet. And when we do, I probably won't be getting it for a while. (Just like I still haven't got Kingdom Hearts. Either of them. So, er, there is somebody who finished it slower than you! I AM GETTING SO VERY SICK OF AXEL BECAUSE EVERYONE TALKS AND RANTS ABOUT AND DRAWS HIM.) From what I've seen, it looks like it's good? Feel free to contradict me. And hey, British accents! Can't go wrong with 'em unless you're Liquid Snake.

I am talking a lot to disguise the fact that I ran out of relevance the moment I admitted I can't play it. Whoo!
nano_moose: Final Fantasy X. Yuna standing on sunset-limned water with her arms at her sides before she begins the Sending Dance. (lack of content)

[personal profile] nano_moose 2007-02-26 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It worked for Knights of the Old Republic! I'm just a little irked by your assertion that the encounters worked for eleven games WHY SHOULD WE CHANGE IT? Because as much as I love the Final Fantasy series, I don't want to play the same game over and over, and I think it's good they're messing with the formula. As long as it has a big sweeping story and awesome characters and moogles and pretty men and magic.

On DeviantART, most of my favourite fanartists just won't stop drawing him and ffrants was inundated with rants about KHII and he is in icons. Everywhere! Everywhere! It's all I can do not to throw my hiking boots at my computer. CAN'T YOU PEOPLE FIND A NEW CHARACTER TO OBSESS OVER? I am probably bitter about the size of any game fandom with Japanese stuff in it as compared to all my tiny, tiny Western game fandoms. COME ON, SANDS OF TIME HAS PRETTY MEN! MAN. AND SNARK! AND A FEMALE LEAD YOU CAN DEMONIZE. ...On reflection, maybe it's for the best.

I have played a game where I'm an undead knight with no lower jaw who can pull off his own arm and beat things with it! And turn enemies into chicken roasts, which I can eat for health! And another one where I can run around in a circus made entirely out of meat! And one where I can pilot a giant robot monkey in a battle against my giant statue nemesis, who wields the power of the ULTIMATE INSULT.

Seriously, you don't want to get into 'Who's Played The Weirdest Game' with me. I've played Lucasarts adventure games.
nano_moose: Final Fantasy X. Yuna standing on sunset-limned water with her arms at her sides before she begins the Sending Dance. (luna pwns you all)

[personal profile] nano_moose 2007-02-26 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Perfectly understandable! I just have all these capital letter Opinions about, you know, the games industry as a whole. One of them is about how much I hate it when the developer releases pretty much the same game with a different story (CRASH BANDICOOT, I AM LOOKING AT YOU), or when they go to the opposite extreme and change everything about the game that got it fans in the first place (SCREW UBISOFT AND WARRIOR WITHIN *cries hysterically*). Squeenix has been coming perilously close to the former. The change will probably annoy people, but honestly, if that made a difference, they'd have combusted long ago. An aversion to change is a really bad thing in the industry, because it's constantly warping and expanding and getting new technology.

You probably be unable to shut me up when I finally get it, so there you go.

KINGDOM HEARTS HAS MAGICAL CLOTHES THAT TURN YOU INTO A LION CUB. AND DEFEATING A GIGANTIC FACE WITH SONG. AND WHEN YOU GET ARRESTED YOU ARE SUCKED INTO A COMPUTER AND HAVE TO FIGHT COMPUTER PROGRAMS WHILE RIDING A MOTORBIKE.

Oh it is on.

Giant face? Been done. Defeating face with song? Okay, maybe not, but defeating a giant hand with song, this I have done! But what else have I done? DEFEATING A GHOST PIRATE WITH ROOT BEER. FIGHTING A FAT BOMBER ON ROLLER BLADES WITH ICE SPRAY, THIS I HAVE DONE. DUELING BANJOS, I GOT 'EM. CABER TOSSING, WHICH YOU WIN WITH A RUBBER TREE. MURRAY, THE TALKING DEMONIC SKULL! TELEKINETIC BEARS! BARBERSHOP PIRATE QUARTETS! LAVA SPIDERS INEXPLICABLY NAMED 'PHANTOM'. DRESSING UP AS A TENTACLE TO WIN THE HUMAN SHOW. SECRET SERVICE VAMPIRE COWBOYS.

Okay, the music is very pretty, but the rest of the video is WHUT. Does it make more sense when you've played the first game?

I am so not going to admit defeat ever ever ever, thus, WHOO!

You are evil. Except you didn't succumb. Er. Name me somebody you're sick of seeing of so that I can resist and get not!revenge.
nano_moose: Final Fantasy X. Yuna standing on sunset-limned water with her arms at her sides before she begins the Sending Dance. (wheee)

[personal profile] nano_moose 2007-02-27 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Devil May Cry, Monkey Island 1 - 4, Psychonauts, Metal Gear Solid 2, Day of the Tentacle, Sam and Max Hit the Road, Medievil and Darkwatch, to be exact. Man, Lucasarts used to be so awesome. And yes, play Monkey Island! I think it's actually really easy to download legally obtain copies of the original two Monkey Islands.

I think it might be less that I have a taste for odd games and more that games are just odd. They don't have to deal with plausibility or anything, just be fun. And have cool stuff to put on the back. And some game boss music just came up on my playlist. Neat.

Really? Huh...maybe Kingdom Hearts just has the combined crack of being a Squeenix game and crossed over with Disney, who used to be pretty cracky themselves in the old days. It would explain a lot. Or maybe it's just that it's Japanese. Gotta love the Japanese.

[identity profile] dracothelizard.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Monkey Island is LOVE.

Just interrupting your little comment war for that.

[identity profile] twilit-wanderer.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 01:05 am (UTC)(link)


At least Tidus2.0 doesn't bounce when he runs? Because Tidus bouncing in time to the music on the Mi'ihen Highroad made me want to stab him a lot.

The sad thing is, Final Fantasy XII and I refuse to get along half the time! Really, it is a pity, because it is a very pretty game, and I want to play it! It's just, arg! I play Final Fantasy XI and there are so many annoying almost-similarities! The save crystals look like home points (which is fine - it's still where you go when you die), but the combat system is just... arg. There's the auto-attack, and the delay on spells, and then there is absolutely no group dynamic because everyone is controlled by you or the game's AI. Also there is no auto-target-lock, and you can't crouch to recover health, and a monster with a red bar means it's going to AGGRO, not that someone else is fighting it already!

So I keep confusing myself. WAIT, THIS IS NOT XI. STOP THINKING IT'S GOING TO WORK LIKE IT. And then I flail. Endlessly. (Though I am so glad we don't have to deal with "licenses" in XI, because that is possibly one of their worst ideas yet.)

[identity profile] twilit-wanderer.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
In my incredibly biased opinion, it's implemented a lot better in XI (but I also think everyone ever should play XI, so perhaps I should not always be listened to), but then I'm only about two hours into XII, so maybe it gets better or my brain stops trying to muck me up eventually.

[identity profile] saaski-moql.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
It is the ATTACK OF THE KILLER TOMATOES.

...

Odd tv program, that was.

[identity profile] melata-fic.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
The battle system is kind of fun. And lots better than getting into nuisance battle screens. Still not quite sure how to work it, but I'll get there.

Where does one find these adorable little rabbits? *lip wobbles* I'm afraid I might have to slaughter them.

You died by the Killer Tomato? Hee. I killed that one easily. It was the four-on-one wolf fight I had trouble with.

Fran is worryingly hot. Except, ew, aninal ears.

[identity profile] melata-fic.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Hee. I died by scary bird-thingies though. And almost by weird boss-monster.

I could never get past that robot dude the first time... I never really figured out how to run away properly. ;S

Have you met Balthier yet? Only way he could be better is if voiced by Cary Elwes. Dude.

I have slaughtered many poor little bunnies. So cute. Not as cute as that little rabbit the guy pets like Mr Bigglesworth, though.

[identity profile] melata-fic.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Robot dude on FF8. :(

Exactly. I got up to where he talked about soiling his cuffs and had to go express glee to someone. :D

[identity profile] heyheyrenay.livejournal.com 2007-02-27 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad I'm not the only one that hates to kill the rabbits. :D

[identity profile] melata-fic.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
What about the cacti? :D